St Totteringham's Day
   


A St Totteringham's Day Diary.

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    St Totteringham's Day is the day when Arsenal fans celebrate the fact that Tottenham can no longer catch Arsenal in the League. It is a movable feast, but usually falls in March, April or May. It is the day to collect on bets made by over-optimistic Spurs fans in the close season who think that "this is the year".

    See the links on the left for more information.

    Tue, 15 Apr 2014

    Poldi is a superstar!

    Two great finishes from Lukas Podolski, and one from Giroud tonight completed quite a good weekend for the pursuit of St Totteringham's day.

    Spurs failure to win whilst we were otherwise engaged (reaching an FA Cup Final the hard way) leaves the gap between us enhanced after today's result:
    GamesPointsGDPoints behind(games left)(max points)
    Arsenal3467+18
    Spurs346007(4)(72)

    Arsenal need just 6 points from four games to beat Spurs

    In fact it could happen this weekend if Spurs lose on Saturday lunchtime, and Arsenal win at Hull the next day. So I shall be cheering on Fulham!
    DateArsenalSpursEverton
    Wed 16 AprilCrystal Palace (H)
    Sat 19 AprilFulham (H)
    Sun 20 AprilHull City (A)Manchester United (H)
    Sat 26 AprilStoke City (A)Southampton (A)
    Mon 28 AprilNewcastle Utd (H)
    Sat 3 MayWest Ham United (A)Manchester City (H)
    Sun 4 MayWest Bromwich Albion (H)
    Sat 11 MayNorwich City (A)Aston Villa (H)Hull City (A)
    Key (position 9/4/14)
    top 4
    Over 50 points
    40-49 points
    30-39 points
    relegation zone

    It looks more likely to go beyond this weekend though: somehow I think Fulham won't be doing us a favour. I live in hope though. I think it should be settled before the end of April this year.

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    Wed, 09 Apr 2014

    A quick look at the run in...

    I am not going to comment on Arsenal's record against teams in the top 5 this season.

    The run in is definitely upon us, and with five games to play we are five points ahead of Spurs. This means Spurs need to get a point a game on us, or to put it anotherway 2 wins when we lose, or a win when we lose and win when we draw, or 3 wins when we draw. Thats a big ask over five games.

    Another (simpler!) way to put it is to say we need 11 points from five games: four wins will see us safe, as would three wins and two draws.

    There are of course complications if Spurs drop points. I've also added Everton to the analysis for the infamous fourth place trophy...
    DateArsenalSpursEverton
    Sat 12 AprilWest Bromwich Albion (A)Sunderland (A)
    Tue 15 AprilWest Ham Utd (H)
    Wed 16 AprilCrystal Palace (H)
    Sat 19 AprilHull City (A)Fulham (H)
    Sun 20 AprilManchester United (H)
    Sat 26 AprilStoke City (A)Southampton (A)
    Mon 28 AprilNewcastle Utd (H)
    Sat 3 MayWest Ham United (A)Manchester City (H)
    Sun 4 MayWest Bromwich Albion (H)
    Sat 11 MayNorwich City (A)Aston Villa (H)Hull City (A)
    Key (position 9/4/14)
    top 4
    Over 50 points
    40-49 points
    30-39 points
    relegation zone

    To me there is little to chose between Spurs and Arsenal's games. Most of them are against teams in the 30-something point scrap. They all need a few more points to make themselves safe.

    The Stoke and Newcastle matches look tricky. As could be both the West Ham games. Only Fulham stand out, and a team fighting for survival can spring shocks. Don't think they will though.

    So matching up the games: we both play West Ham and West Brom. We play Newcastle when they play Stoke. Hull and Villa are next to each other in the table. Norwich are the club immediately above the drop and go with Fulham.

    Nothing between them. It will be down to form, and frankly both teams are capable of messing up.

    Fantasy time: the earliest date would be 19 April if we beat the Hammers and Hull, and Spurs lose to the Baggies and Fulham. Seems unlikely!

    I put Everton in as well for the 4th place trophy. It doesn't look good. On paper we have a MUCH easier run in, but they are on form and we aren't. If the title race is still alive on May 3 then I can't see City losing, but if it is over then City will drop and Everton might do it.

    My gut prediction is that we won't hang on to 4th: based on us picking up 12 points, Spurs 10, and Everton 13. It'd be down to goal difference if I am right.

    But I am confident St T's will be earlier this year than last!

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    Sun, 16 Mar 2014

    One Nil to the Arsenal

    Is that the end of Spurs' season?

    If it is or not it's an excellent result. Puts Arsenal back in touch in the title race (though we're still long shots, as I've said before, it's fun whilst it lasts!) and could be significant for St T's day purposes.

    The end is still a way off, but nine points is a big gap:

    66  Chelsea (+33)
    65
    64
    63
    62  Liverpool (1 in hand; +41) Arsenal (1; +25)
    61
    60  Man City (3; +44)
    59
    58
    57
    56
    55
    54
    53  Spurs (0; -1)
    
    GamesPointsGDPoints behind(games left)(max points)
    Arsenal2962+25
    Spurs3053-19(8)(77)

    If Spurs get themselves together there is still a way to go, and we have some really tricky matches. For now however: 1-0. Deserved. Battling win with a superb goal. Lets enjoy that!

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    Sun, 29 Dec 2013

    Season's Greetings...

    So far a reasonable Christmas has seen a point off Chelsea and good wins at West Ham and Newcastle. I said earlier that I was surprised at our being top of the league, and I am still on. Still think it is great. Playing pretty badly away from home against a contender for the top four and getting a 1-0 win is very pleasing indeed.

    As I write this Spurs are yet to play today and so have a game in hand, however a quick update:
    GamesPointsGDPoints behind(games left)(max points)
    Arsenal1942+19
    Spurs1831-511(20)(91)

    Still 11 behind.

    Happy new year to all Gooners!

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    Sat, 30 Nov 2013

    As autumn turns into winter...

    Well I didn't expect us to be top as we enter December, but I am overjoyed that we are. It has been a superb season and the first goal at Cardiff today sums up the season: Özil crossing to Rambo. The men of our season so far... Credit to Cardiff fans for the reception they gave him too. Reminded me of the reaction of the Arsenal fans to Eduardo's goal against us.

    Even better is Spurs stuttering start. The early penalty wins flattered them it'd appear, and I am sure most readers took great glee in the drubbing that City gave them recently.

    However we must remember how early in the season it is. This time last year Spurs were two points ahead, and the year before by the end of November they had a three point lead. So don't get too confident at a mere 11 point lead. Especially as they have a game in hand.

    The situation in summary:
    GamesPointsGDPoints behind(games left)(max points)
    Arsenal1331+17
    Spurs1220-311(tonnes)(enough)

    And a rather elongated Cann table extract is needed to get Spurs and Arsenal both in...

    31  Arsenal
    30
    29
    28
    27
    26
    25
    24  Liverpool (1 game in hand), Chelsea (1), Everton
    23
    22  Man City (1), Southampton (1)
    21  Man Utd (1)
    20  Newcastle Utd (1), Tottenham Hotspur (1)
    

    That is a heck of a gap, but Arsenal need to keep slogging away and winning. But who saw this back in July?

    Admin update: I've added a 2013/14 link and a link back to the home page to the bar on the left hand side of the page.

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    Sun, 06 Oct 2013

    If it wasn't for the West Midlands...

    Villa and the Baggies seem to know how to play us, but nobody else seems to.

    An excellent opening to the season: top of the league (ahead of Liverpool on goals scored. 1989-retro style...) and playing quite well in Europe too.

    Even better are Spurs two defeats: if they could chose two teams to lose to would it be Arsenal and West Ham?

    So very early days but we have a tiny lead, and I'm happy with that.

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    Sat, 31 Aug 2013

    Welcome to the new season...

    Which so far looks similar to last season. And the season before.

    Now is the time to get Spurs fans to bet that "this is the season!". It won't be because somehow despite all the problems we'll scrape ahead of them. I have no idea how we'll do it but we will. A reminder double or quits £1 bet started in 1995 would be a stake of £131,072 this year.

    Anyway: this is really just a placeholder. I might update the 'blog tomorrow after the NLD if I feel up to it, but may not. To be honest the result tomorrow has little impact on St T's, but I still want to win, preferably 5-2...

    The only big change from previous seasons is that I am no longer a season ticket holder at Arsenal. This is for various reasons, some football and some not, but should mean quicker updates after matches for readers of this page.

    I added the line to the history page way back in May...

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    Sun, 19 May 2013

    Happy St Totteringham's day 2013

    Arsenal have now finished above Spurs for eighteen years in a row, a magnificent achievement and one that seemed unlikely back in March. So in 2013 St T's is 19 May. The tenth final day St T's, and the latest ever. Breaking last year's record (13/5).

    As I type the Spurs manager is trying to suggest that Bale's diving habit had some effect on how Newcastle and Arsenal would play. Muppet. Anyway...

    The final position...
    GamesPointsGDPoints behind(games left)(max points)
    Arsenal3873+35
    Spurs3872+201(0)(72)

    This is the 48th St Totteringham's day, and the 63rd time we have finished above Spurs in the league.

    Double or quits against a Spurs fan has now reached 131,072 since '95/96.

    Gloating aside, a reminder: Spurs are improving and we are not. Over a season the better squad finishes higher, but we are not competing for trophies and are struggling to even finish above Spurs. Now, with luck, Bale may go over the summer and then the natural order will be restored but we can't rely on it...

    Anyway: HAPPY ST TOTTERINGHAM'S DAY 2013!

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    Happy St Totteringham's day

    We finish above Spurs for the 18th year in a row on 19th May.

    More to follow...

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    Wed, 15 May 2013

    All hangs on the final day...

    Going into the final day Arsenal can finish 3rd, 4th or 5th. I must confess to feeling a little sorry for Wigan, who played well and despite the final scoreline made most of the fans around me rather nervous about the result. At 1-1 we could have lost it. As for Mike Dean, he should never referee Arsenal again. Atrocious. Anyway time for the analysis (a little later than hoped, sorry!):

    Anyway the table going into the final day reads...

    72  Chelsea (+35)
    71
    70  Arsenal (+34)
    69  Spurs (+19)
    

    And the situation with us chasing Spurs is...
    GamesPointsGDPoints behind(games left)(max points)
    Arsenal3760+34
    Spurs3759+1911(62)

    So for in the St Totteringham's day battle:

    • Arsenal beat Newcastle then it is St Ts. End of.
    • If Arsenal draw at Newcastle then we have 71 points, so rely on Bale not beating Sunderland. A draw or loss is fine.
    • Hopefully we won't see Arsenal losing, but if we do unless it is by around 15 goals we'd still finish above Spurs if they draw, and definitely if they lose.

    To turn it around, if Spurs win we must win. If they lose or draw we finish above them anyway (ignoring 15-0 defeats or worse).

    The race for third is balanced due to the heavy win last night. The BBC have noticed a discussion that I saw happening on twitter last night about the possibility of a dead heat between Arsenal and Chelsea. As third place would hang on it we'd face a neutral venue play off. The winner would get the third group place, while the loser would face another playoff in the form of Champions League qualifying.

    The dead heat happens if Chelsea draw, and Arsenal win by a single goal and score two goals more than Chelsea. We'd then be tied on GD and Goals Scored which are the only tie breaks allowed by the rule (see Rule C14 on page 93 of the Premier league rules, thanks to @goonerfanzine and @eerlend on twitter for that link). That is...

    • Chelsea draw 0-0, we win 2-1; or
    • Chelsea draw 1-1, we win 3-2; or
    • Chelsea draw 2-2, we win 4-3; or...
    • it starts to get silly here. Mind you Arsenal v Newcastle has been high scoring in the past.

    So...

    • We win by 2 clear goals: we need Chelsea to lose or draw
    • We win by 1 clear goal: there is a play off if one of the above scores happens, else Chelsea beat us on Goals Scored
    • We draw or lose, Chelsea beat us.

    I know the last bit isn't relevant to St T's, but I hope you'll indulge me.

    Having gone through all that the simple message is an Arsenal win is what we need. Pretty obvious really...

    Minor update: I've split the post-2000 section of the history into two parts now, basically splitting of a 2010s section. In doing that I noticed that if we do celebrate St Ts, it will be the latest ever St Totteringham's day, breaking a record that has stood since a year ago today. Happy anniversary at least!

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