St Totteringham's Day

A St Totteringham's Day Diary.

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  • List of every St Totteringham's since the first on 22nd April 1911.
  • Old home page, including detail on 2003/4 to 2010/11
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    St Totteringham's Day is the day when Arsenal fans celebrate the fact that Tottenham can no longer catch Arsenal in the League. It is a movable feast, but usually falls in March, April or May. It is the day to collect on bets made by over-optimistic Spurs fans in the close season who think that "this is the year".

    See the links on the left for more information.

    Fri, 16 Mar 2018

    A second inglorious year

    This post is really for Spurs fans. Arsenal fans look away now.

    It's not good.

    Anyway the table looks a bit like this (as of today):

    Tottenham P30   61pts +34GD
    Arsenal    30   48    +14
    So we are currently 13 points behind with 8 to play. We can max out on 48+(3x8)=72 points so Spurs need another 12 to be sure (given the goal difference 11 is probably enough, however if they only get 11 from 8 games the GD will change too). Alternatively Arsenal losing is worth 3 points, and drawing is worth 2 to Spurs, as that is what it reduces are maximum total by.

    Trying to predict a date for the dreadful day is made trickier by Arsenal's rampant unpredictability this season.

    Looking the April fixtures Arsenal should beat Stoke, Southampton and West Ham at home, but away trips to Newcastle and Manchester United look dodgy. I think we might drop some points.

    Spurs on the other hand should beat Stoke and Brighton away, but I have no idea about the match at Chelsea. Lets call that a draw. I think on current form City will win at Wembley.

    Putting that together I think after the match at Brighton Spurs will have 68 points, and Arsenal may be looking at a 69 point maximum at that stage. So the anti-St-T's will be on the 23rd if West Ham get a point, or the 29th if Manchester United remember to score a goal, or the 30th if Spurs beat Watford.

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    Sat, 13 Jan 2018

    Gaps between league titles? Is 14 years too much for one man?

    Not looking good at the moment, so I'll talk about history.

    I think most Arsenal fans know the significance of the number 18 when it comes to gaps between our league titles. 18 years is the longest gap between titles since we first won it back in 1931. It has happened twice, either side of the Bertie Mee 1971 double team.

    However these gaps usually had several managers (in the 1953-1971 we had Whittaker, Crayston, Swindin, Wright and Mee; in the second gap Mee, Neill, Howe, and Graham (and Burtenshaw as caretaker)). So I thought which managers have had the longest dry runs in the league for Arsenal.

    Ignoring caretakers and those who had under three seasons...

    Manager		Seasons		Then what?			Years without a title
    Neill		1976-1983	left job in 7th season		7
    Chapman		1925-1931	won in sixth season		6
    Bradshaw	1899-1904	left job in fifth season	5
    Whittaker	1948-1953	Won in 5th season		5
    Mee		1966-1971	Won in 5th season		5
    		1971-1976	left job after 5th season	5
    Kelso		1904-1908	left job in 4th season		4
    Swindin		1958-1962	left job in 4th season		4
    Wright		1962-1966	left job after 4th season	4
    Graham		1991-1995	left job in 4th season		4
    Allison		1938-1947	Left job after three seasons	3
    Howe		1983-1986	left job in third season	3

    Of course one person is missing. If Wenger doesn't win the league this season (and noone thinks he will) then it'll be 14 years. Surely this is indulging him to excess if we are still a club which starts with the ambition of winning the league?

    A small footnote: 1938-1947 only covered three full seasons. 1938/9, 1945/6 and 1946/7.

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    Wed, 29 Nov 2017

    Well, fancy that...

    Despite my early season pessimism things are suddenly and unexpectedly looking rosier!

    After 11 games we were behind Spurs, but had battled well to stay in touch with what we were assured was a superb Tottenham team. I was thrilled by a superb North London Derby that left us just 1 point behind. Since when Spurs have continued to implode and we've been thoroughly professional: Grinding out a rather grim 1-0 at Burnley and thumping poor Huddersfield tonight. (Sorry Huddersfield fans!)

    The net result is that we are 4th and Spurs are 7th. Four points down.

    Permit me to enjoy that.

    Power shift in North London? No sign of it.

    Anyway the key bit of the table is...

    4. Arsenal     P14 28pts +12
    5. Liverpool   P14 26pts +10
    6. Burnley     P14 25pts +3
    7. Spurs       P14 24pts +10

    Burnley are impressive this season. I'll also remind people Spurs still have to play City twice. However a long way to go, and a four point gap can, as Spurs just demonstrated, be reversed in 4 games!

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    Mon, 28 Aug 2017

    Welcome to the new season!


    The losses to Liverpool and Stoke were hardly suprises, but do rather confirm that this is going to be another groundhog season. I was hoping to be able to start this year with an optimistic post, but none of the opening league results justified that.

    Anyway here is the start of the year placeholder. Will the Saint be returning thanks to Spurs' Wembley hoodoo, or will it be a year of wailing and gnashing of teeth?

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    Sun, 30 Apr 2017


    I knew it would happen eventually. Fair play to Spurs, but the lack of passion and organisation from Arsenal was predictaly bad.

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    Sat, 29 Apr 2017

    Tomorrow evening...

    Well I think we all know the situation but just to get it down here before the game...

    Before the match Arsenal have six games left and we are 14 points behind. There are three results

    • If Arsenal win then we reduce the gap to 11 points with 15 points left to play for. Also I will laugh. Spurs will still finish above us, but it will reduce the pain a little.
    • If we draw then the gap stays at 14 with 15 to go. Not the best result for either team but at least we avoid the anti-St-Totteringham happening at WHL. Right now I'd take this if offered.
    • Finally the third option. If that happens we will be unable to catch Spurs.

    Some straws to clutch at for Arsenal fans: Spurs will be celebrating finishing second, like we did last season. 21 years. We have an FA Cup final. Next year Spurs will be at Wembley.

    And finally remember: Arsenal have finished above Spurs 66 times since Spurs joined the league wheras Spurs have finished above us only 30. Mind the gap!

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    Mon, 10 Apr 2017

    What was that...

    Writing at half time we are deservedly 1-0 down. It is so bad I am trying to distract myself. My attempt to find a picture to tweet for the Arsenal watching face didn't go well, so I'm doing arithmetic.

    If I'm posting this it didn't get any better. (In fact it got a whole lot worse.)

    Taking the relevant info from the PL table...

              P     Pts   Games left    Max points
    Spurs    31      68
    Arsenal  30      54            8         78
    Spurs now need just 11 points. Four wins out of seven, or three if they win the NLD. Which is the third game they play.

    I am wondering if us losing our next two games might be less painful.

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    Sat, 08 Apr 2017

    Well Watford did what I expected them to do at the end of January... Watford capitulated to Spurs. Not a surprise.

    Anyway ahead of our game on Monday I thought I'd update how bad things are looking for the Saint.

    I think he's not very well.

    The raw facts are this: Arsenal can still (in theory) max out on 81 points. This means Spurs need 82 to be mathematically certain. They now have 68 so need just 14 more. That would be five wins out of seven, or four wins and two draws.

    This doesn't give them much room to slip up, but don't forget that assumes we don't slip up either. Worse still the head to head game between at the Lane. If Spurs win that it would leave them needing 8 more points, a draw would require 11 more points.

    It gets worse... the nightmare scenario exists:

    • Assuming Tottenham beat Bournemouth and Palace (which seems likely), they will have 6 points towards the total.
    • They'll need 8 more if Arsenal don't drop any points.
    • Arsenal have three games before the NLD: Palace and Boro away, and Leicester at home.
    • If we draw just one of those games then we have dropped two points. This leads Spurs needing 6 more. One loss would be much the same.
    • Spurs beating Arsenal would be worth those six (three for Spurs and three off our max score)

    Let us hope we can get a mini-run going to avoid this being even theoretically possible. (That Leicester game looks worrying.)

    Of course given Spurs ability to make a mess of anything it is entirely possible that they win the next two, then lose to us and fall apart failing to get 8 points from the last four. We'll call that the comedy gold option!

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    Tue, 28 Mar 2017

    Can the international break continue for a bit longer...?

    Only it was nice not losing last weekend!

    Anyway: this weekend could be massive for the fate of St Totteringham in 2017. A reminder that Spurs are currently nine ahead having played one more game. That looks like a massive lead but...

    Mindless optimism: A Spurs loss at Burnley is not impossible. Burnley are good at home (29 points from 14 games), and Spurs away record is much weaker than their home one (23 fewer points away from home than at home). Arsenal have had some time to plan out tactics against Manchester City, and we are due a performance in a big game. We could find the gap down to six. Win the game in hand and at the Lane and St Totteringham could walk again!

    Mindless pessimism: Spurs away record is not that bad, and Burnley have imploded in recent weeks. On top of that Arsenal against the big clubs could well be a hiding on recent performances. We could be 12 points behind by Saturday night, and licking our wounds after another demoralising defeat on Sunday night. That defeat will aggravate the bad goal difference too.

    Looking at the form of the two clubs I quite fancy Burnley for a draw against Spurs, but I have very little confidence we will get anything out of the match on Sunday. That it is at home should help, but that could turn against us if we start badly. That we have a history of starting badly in lunchtime kick offs worries me. But I shall hope, that like last year, mindless optimism prevails.

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    Sun, 19 Mar 2017


    I know none of us have forgotten that Saint Totteringham's day is unusual in that some years it isn't celebrated. I fear that after 21 years in a row we may need to be ready for an exception.

    After the debacle today at the Hawthorns both teams have 11 games left. That means up to 33 points (which is a lot), but Spurs have a six point lead, and a considerably better goal difference (+33 v +22).

    What is worse is that at the moment I can't see this team lifting themselves in the upcoming big games. Can we face losses to City, West Ham and (dare I say) Spurs? Everton winning 4-0 leaves them behind us on goal difference by 1. United have a game in hand (admittedly the Manchester derby). We might not have to put up with Europa league next season!

    Still I meet feel better about the world if Southampton and Burnley do us a huge favour over the next few weeks.

    Correction: I have no idea where I got the idea it was the Manchester derby from. None at all. Anyway Middlesborough aren't looking like tough opponents today...

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