St Totteringham's Day
   


A St Totteringham's Day Diary.

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    St Totteringham's Day is the day when Arsenal fans celebrate the fact that Tottenham can no longer catch Arsenal in the League. It is a movable feast, but usually falls in March, April or May. It is the day to collect on bets made by over-optimistic Spurs fans in the close season who think that "this is the year".

    See the links on the left for more information.

    Sat, 25 Apr 2015

    Why four points isn't enough!

    A lot of people on Twitter tweeting that we only need four points. Presumably because at that point we will have matched the maximum total Spurs can get.

    I hope it is obvious why this isn't enough for St Totteringham, but just in case it isn't.

    Suppose Spurs win all the remaining matches 3-0. We get a 1-0 win and a draw in the next two games then lose the remaining games 4-0.

    I'll be the first to say: That is never going to happen but it isn't impossible. And St T's is about what is possible, not what is likely.

    What would happen? Firstly Spurs and Arsenal end on 70 points. So it comes down to goal difference.

    Now we start with a huge advantage here +31 against Spurs +6.

    But the four wins for Spurs but them up to +18.

    Our win takes us to +32, but then the four defeats knock off 16. Spurs would pinch it on goal difference.

    We can gloat after four points because it is ridiculously unlikely to not be enough, but it wouldn't be St Totteringhams until it was certain. We can gloat about the fact we are likely to finish above Spurs already! St Totteringhams however needs five points.

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    When the Saints nearly go marching in...

    The Saints help a little but losing two leads against Spurs is a bit disappointing. Still it does move us on. The important bit is now:
    GamesPointsGDPoints behind(games left)(max points)
    Arsenal3266+31
    Spurs3458+684(70)

    That means five more needed to get St Ts. The Earliest possible date is May 3rd: needing Arsenal beating Chelsea and City getting a point or more at White Hart Lane. Possible but unlikely.

    The ever shortening run-in suggests to me that we won't need to wait until after May 11. I can't see us not getting four points off Hull and Swansea, and can easily see Spurs dropping points against Man City or the Rugby Club.
    DateArsenalSpurs
    Sun Apr 26Chelsea (h)
    Sun May 3 Manchester City (h)
    Mon May 4Hull City (a)
    Sat May 9 Stoke City (a)
    Mon May 11Swansea (h)
    Sat May 16 Hull City (h)
    Sun May 17Manchester Utd (a)
    Wed May 20Sunderland (h)
    Sun May 24West Bromwich Albion (h) Everton (a)

    Hopefully at 6pm tomorrow I'll have a more optimistic update! We can beat Chelsea.

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    Sun, 19 Apr 2015

    Arsenal v Villa at Wembly!

    She wore a yellow ribbon in the merry month of May...

    Spurs sadly won.

    The situation is...
    GamesPointsGDPoints behind(games left)(max points)
    Arsenal3266+31
    Spurs3357+695(72)

    So we still need 7 more points to be sure. (Six is not enough: to be certain we need the daylight. Six points will not give St Totteringhams! It is unlikely Spurs will make up the points but we don't celebrate yet, the same applies to goal difference.)

    Sadly this means it can't be in April. Even the best results next weekend leave us just on the brink. The best results include us beating Chelsea.

    So the run-in...
    DateArsenalSpurs
    Sat Apr 25Southampton (a)
    Sun Apr 26Chelsea (h)
    Sun May 3 Manchester City (h)
    Mon May 4Hull City (a)
    Sat May 9 Stoke City (a)
    Mon May 11Swansea (h)
    Sat May 16 Hull City (h)
    Sun May 17Manchester Utd (a)
    Wed May 20Sunderland (h)
    Sun May 24West Bromwich Albion (h) Everton (a)

    So best case will be on Sunday May 3rd, and I'm confident it will be before we play at Old Trafford. Nearly there...

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    Sat, 11 Apr 2015

    Spurs lose to Villa...

    Quick update between Spurs and Arsenal fixtures. Despite a late red card Villa hang on to win 1-0. A bit of a surprise that.

    The situation is...
    GamesPointsGDPoints behind(games left)(max points)
    Arsenal3163+30
    Spurs3154+596(72)

    This means Arsenal need only 10 points to finish above Spurs: 3 wins and a draw out of the last seven games. Alternatively Spurs need to drop points which might speed things up. No change to th earliest date, which is still 26 April. That relies on us winning now of course...

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    Oops. Hadn't updated the run in dates...

    I hadn't updated the run in to reflect all the televised games.

    The correct fixture list is...
    DateArsenalSpurs
    Sat Apr 11Burnley (a) Aston Villa (h)
    Sat Apr 18FA Cup Semi Final
    Sun Apr 19Newcastle Utd (a)
    Sat Apr 25Southampton (a)
    Sun Apr 26Chelsea (h)
    Sun May 3 Manchester City (h)
    Mon May 4Hull City (a)
    Sat May 9 Stoke City (a)
    Mon May 11Swansea (h)
    Sat May 16 Hull City (h)
    Sun May 17Manchester Utd (a)
    Wed May 20Sunderland (h)
    Sun May 24West Bromwich Albion (h) Everton (a)

    This has no impact on the earliest date as all the corrections are in May. Updates to follow the matches later today!

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    Thu, 09 Apr 2015

    Nine point gap with seven to go...

    It has reached that time when it is worth taking a quick look ahead to see when St Totteringham's might fall this year.

    The situation is...
    GamesPointsGDPoints behind(games left)(max points)
    Arsenal3163+30
    Spurs3154+597(75)

    This means Arsenal need 13 points to finish above Spurs: 4 wins and a draw out of the last seven games. Alternatively Spurs need to drop points which might speed things up.
    DateArsenalSpurs
    Sat Apr 11Burnley (a) Aston Villa (h)
    Sun Apr 18FA Cup Semi-Final
    Sun Apr 19Newcastle Utd (a)
    Sat Apr 25Southampton (a)
    Sun Apr 26Chelsea (h)
    Sat May 2Hull City(a) Manchester City (h)
    Sat May 9Swansea (h) Stoke City (a)
    Sat May 16Manchester Utd (a) Hull City (h)
    Wed 20 MaySunderland (h)
    Sun May 24West Bromwich Albion (h) Everton (a)

    A massively optimistic look at the fixtures could see St Totteringham's fall on April 26: Arsenal beat Burnley, while Spurs lose three in a row would leave us needing just a point from Chelsea.

    More realistic optimism would say Spurs beat Villa or get points against Newcastle. In that case we'd need to go into May.

    Being realistic: I can't see Arsenal not winning four of the games we have: Burnley, Hull, Swansea, Sunderland and WBA all look winnable. The fact we have one slip allowed helps. Chelsea and Manchester Utd are less likely wins: but it isn't impossible to win one or both.

    In addition Spurs face Man City in a match that looks tough. Southampton looks a key match in the chase for Europa league football. They've also looked brittle in recent weeks: Newcastle and Villa will hope to get something.

    So in summary I think we can start to be confident of making it twenty years in a row, but we will probably be looking at a May St Totteringham this year.

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    Sun, 15 Mar 2015

    Is this when the gap begins to widen..?

    As I type Spurs are losing 3-0 at Old Trafford. Following a solid win against West Ham yesteray that suits us nicely.

    If the result stays the same then after 29 games each we have daylight between Arsenal and Spurs: a good looking 7 point gap.

    With nine matches to go that looks huge -- the same gap between us and Chelsea and I don't think anyone thinks we'll close that.

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    Sun, 22 Feb 2015

    Four point gap emerges

    Sadly Kane scoring on the rebound from his own penalty means the gap that has emerged is four points rather than the five it looked like being moments earlier. Alex Song showed that side of his game...

    So a long, long way to go but it is better to be four points ahead than behind.

    I had a quick look at the run in...
    DateArsenalSpurs
    Sun Mar 1Everton (h)
    Wed Mar 4QPR (a) Swansea (h)
    Sat Mar 7 QPR (a)
    Sat Mar 14West Ham Utd (h)
    Sun Mar 15Manchester Utd (a)
    Sat Mar 21Newcastle Utd (a) Leicester City (h)
    Sat Apr 4Liverpool (h)
    Sun Apr 5Burnley (a)
    Sat Apr 11Burnley (a) Aston Villa (h)
    Sat Apr 18Sunderland (h)
    Sun Apr 19Newcastle Utd (a)
    Sat Apr 25Southampton (a)
    Sun Apr 26Chelsea (h)
    Sat May 2Hull City(a) Manchester City (h)
    Sat May 9Swansea (h) Stoke City (a)
    Sat May 16Manchester Utd (a) Hull City (h)
    Sun May 24West Bromwich Albion (h) Everton (a)

    12 matches is just under 1/3 of the season so it isn't that surprising to see an overlap: but both facing

    • away games at Newcastle, QPR, Manchester Utd and Burnley;
    • home games v Swansea; and
    • matches v Everton and Hull
    is a big overlap: 1/2 the fixture list is exactly the same!

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    Sat, 07 Feb 2015

    It's Derby Day, so what does that mean for St Ts?

    Not a lot.

    If Spurs win they'll be a point ahead. If it is a draw we stay two points ahead.

    An Arsenal win will stretch out a five point lead, which will be nice.

    However with 14 games remaining none of these will be decisive. So, bluntly, if Spurs win or it is a draw then today is irrelevant. If Arsenal win then it might be the start of creating the winning lead but is far from conclusive.

    Having said that I hadn't posted for a while because it's been so close and without much of great significance in terms of the two teams. So I thought I'd better do something. If Arsenal do win I will post again this afternoon or evening!

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    Fri, 28 Nov 2014

    Not a lot to say really

    Despite our worst start to a league season since Noah's flood (oh alright, since 1982-3) we are still somehow above Spurs...

    ...on goal difference. Still things must get better soon.

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