get rid of journal on systemd-using systems?

lorenzo plorenzo at
Tue Jun 20 10:47:13 BST 2023


On Sun, 28 May 2023 19:42:05 +0000 (UTC)
Thorsten Glaser <tg at> wrote:

> Hi,
> not for me, but someone saw
> and was asking whether one can run a normal Debian systemd-using
> system without journald, 
I think mask + disable + stop the journald service, and unmaks + enable
+start your syslog daemon should do it. But then there is an issue:
if I recall correctly journald catches stdout from services, so you may
loose some output from systemd itself and you loose all logs from a
service if it's called with an option to log to stdout.
I think the vast majority of services are configured to log to /dev/log


> i.e. with only classical syslog and the
> applications log directly to the syslog dæmon in question (rsyslogd,
> syslog-ng, or even my favourite inetutils-syslogd)?
> bye,
> //mirabilos

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