BBCR4 on Crypto-wars today at 13:30

Roger Hird rl.hird at
Mon Mar 17 21:34:47 GMT 2014

In article <53275F2C.5030407 at>,
   Peter Fairbrother <zenadsl6186 at> wrote:
> Criminals? Whatever happened to presumption of innocence? Until the safe 
> is opened there is no evidence that they are criminals.

Isn't the "presumption of innocence" a forensic convention relating to how
judges and juries make up their minds about guilt?  It doesn't stop us
locking up suspects in serious cases or searching their homes under warrant
- ortunately.

I'm old fashioned enough to think that the protection of life and property
- and the security of the nation - in the face of clear threats rather
trumps private privacy.

Roger Hird
rl.hird at

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