Contactless bank cards

Roland Perry lists at
Wed Nov 17 15:51:31 GMT 2010

In article <20101117152821.GC2834 at>, Jon Ribbens 
<jon+ukcrypto at> writes
>> We clearly live in parallel universes, because I've never seen a
>> merchant do that (other than for a cordless terminal). And I always take
>> a close interest in what's going on with C&P transactions.
>You must indeed truly be living in a parallel dimension if your world
>does not contain stand-alone PDQ machines.

What do you mean by "stand-alone"? I covered the cordless terminals.

>Plus I guess you've never been to a restaurant.

I've not seen a cordless terminal outside of a restaurant (or pub etc). 
Wouldn't a shopkeeper rubbing one against random strangers' inside 
pockets look a bit strange? (Assuming they have a paywave enabled one).


Ah, that's a cordless terminal.

I'm sure there are some vulnerabilities somewhere, but could we please 
concentrate on feasible scenarios?
Roland Perry

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