Is it just me or is there a surge of alternate init activity in Debian currently?

[Andrew Bower]

On 04/04/2025 13:21, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2025, Andrew Bower wrote:
> 
>> For example, I am now concerned that coreutils is only a hasty NMU away
>>from gaining an unnecessary and badly-timed dependency on libsystemd:
> 
> While Md’s rhetoric is telling, as usual, libsystemd0 is already
> effectively pseudo-Essential, and you will have it on your system
> already anyway. Besides being an attack vector for Jia Tan, AFAICT
> it has no negative effect on a sysvinit system without elogind.

Indeed! I'm aware of this for most installations but this is avoidable 
extra weight for an ultra light weight embedded system/container/VM 
isn't it? I feel if you rely on those services your utility is no longer 
'core' and belongs in a higher level package - and that it becomes an 
accident of history that it used to be 'core' because it was trivial to 
implement with only libc.

Anyway, sorry, I'm verging on off-topic, just wasn't ready to wade into 
the main discussion to make this argument - thanks for the answer!