Bug#1038903: initscripts: orphan-sysvinit-scripts needs to be a prerequisite, not optional.

Matthew Vernon matthew at debian.org
Fri Jun 23 09:31:52 BST 2023


Hi,

On 23/06/2023 01:24, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 02:14:40AM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> 
>> The choice to use a nōn-default setup (using rsyslogd at all
>> in bookworm) is up to the local admin.
> 
> It's not obvious from the release notes that rsyslog is deprecated. Maybe
> it's too late now for Bookworm, but this speaks to Debian's suitability as
> a platform for services. Frankly it makes Devuan seem more appealing, for
> folks with any sort of mental investment in Debian.

The release-notes do have a section titled "5.1.7. Changes to system 
logging"[0] which I think is reasonably clear that the default logging 
system is moving away from rsyslog.

It's definitely an oversight that orphan-sysvinit-scripts hasn't been 
mentioned in the release notes; but sysvinit-core does Recommend: 
orphan-sysvinit-scripts, so I would expect a typical installation to 
have installed them for you.

Did that not work, or have you configured apt to skip Recommends?

Regards,

Matthew

[0] 
https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#changes-to-system-logging



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