Bullseye release notes / install instructions for alternative inits

Martin Steigerwald martin at lichtvoll.de
Tue Aug 10 15:12:16 BST 2021

Hi Mark.

Mark Hindley - 23.07.21, 16:29:35 CEST:
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 12:10:48PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > The best time to perform the switch is after the "Selecting and
> > > installing software" stage [link to]; though note that the
> > > default GNOME desktop environment will only work with systemd - so
> > > if
> > > you want a desktop environment installed, then deselect GNOME and
> > > select another (Xfce, for example, works well without systemd).
> > 
> > GNOME does not work at all? I thought it would be working in Devuan,
> > but maybe I am mistaken.
> Gnome certainly works in Devuan and I thought it did in Debian as
> well.

Okay, I bet I will just test it.

> > I also know that KDE Plasma works just fine. No matter whether on
> > X11 or Wayland. Also Pulseaudio works.
> > 
> > Which other desktops are known to work? XFCE is for sure, it is the
> > standard desktop in Devuan. Did anyone test any other?

> I have test installed cinnamon, mate, budgie lxqt and lxde during the
> bullseye cycle.

Thanks, that is great to know!

> > The package "libpam-elogind-compat" from Debian experimental
> > repository is no longer necessary? I think I still have it
> > installed on my one Debian Sid installation – all other systems are
> > Devuan by now.
> I will have to check how many outstanding libpam-systemd dependencies
> exist that have not been changed to default-logind | logind.
> Certainly gdm3 is one. It was said that gdm3 requires systemd --user,
> but I have had reports of it working fine with libpam-elogind.

I see. Well on Debian Sid with KDE's Plasma I was able to remove the 
compat package just fine.


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