pkg-sysvinit-devel mailing list, proposed closure/replacement

[Ian Jackson]

Dmitry Bogatov writes ("Re: pkg-sysvinit-devel mailing list, proposed closure/replacement"):
> [2018-10-29 19:34] Ian Jackson <ijackson at chiark.greenend.org.uk>
> > I therefore propose that we close pkg-sysvinit-devel and change the
> > Maintainer field to point to debian-init-diversity.
> > [...]
> > Does that make sense to everyone ?
> 
> While I understand, that alioth-lists are temporary solution, making
> list on domain, different from `debian.org' feels to me like
> acknowledgement of sysvinit as second-class citizen of Debian. Any
> chance to make list on @lists.debian.org?

I can sort of see your point, but: firstly there are lots of Debian
packages where the mailing list is not @debian.org.  I don't think it
implies second class citizen status.

More importantly, I think it is important that we use a list where
Debian's downstreams who are working on sysvinit-related stuff will
feel welcome.

You say you don't read debian-devel, so you will have missed the nasty
things that were being said there about some of the people we are
collaborating with here.  #debian-devel is also sometimes poor.  There
is a lot of bad history which sadly is still coming out in bad
behaviour and we are trying to make a new start.

I don't think it would be kind to expect our contributors from Devuan
and elsewhere to join a Debian list, when Debian as a whole is not
able to provide a welcoming environment.  Unfortunately I do not have
confidence in the Debian listmasters willingness to address hostility.

That is why I set up a list on my own server.

> I believe I already addressed it.

Err, yes, I looked at the most recent branch and it LGTM.

Thanks,
Ian.

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