probation - probation - new sock grinding old axe Thank you for your submission to uk.rec.cycling.moderated. However, we regret it has not been accepted. Unfortunately, we have found it necessary to operate an informal probationary period for new posters. We would encourage you to read the group for a while, or read past articles, before making posts on some contentious topics - helmets being an obvious example. In many of these cases there are certain points which have already been made repeatedly and running over them for yet another time would be of no value. You can find the group charter and moderation policy at: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/urcm/ If you have difficulty reaching the moderators (eg due to spamfiltering) please tell postmaster@chiark.greenend.org.uk. Thank you, - Moderator.