From webstump at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Thu Jul 16 01:10:49 2026 Return-path: To: JNugent73 at ..il.com Subject: Re: Re: Threats to MPs References: In-Reply-To: Reply-To: matthewv+ulmtestmod at ..riolis.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk X-Webstump-Event: [178416053416057] reject offtopic Message-Id: From: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2026 01:10:49 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 The post that you submitted to uk.legal.moderated has been rejected by a moderator. This appears to the moderator to be off-topic for uk.legal.moderated or has insufficient law-related material. The group charter and moderation policy can be found at https://uklegal.weebly.com/ Disputed moderation decisions can be discussed in the newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation ============================================ Full text of your message follows > From webstump@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu Jul 16 01:08:54 2026 > Return-path: > Envelope-to: webstump+?@slimy.greenend.org.uk > Authentication-Results: mailhub-hex-d.mythic-beasts.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=uni-berlin.de; dkim=pass header.d=uni-berlin.de header.s=fub01 header.a=rsa-sha256 > X-STUMP-Warning-0: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-1: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-2: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-3: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=uni-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:From: Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:In-Reply-To: References; bh=hH8MMQRKpWOT6dWKUgbmYlrJ+u2AktQxSaNi/pynHxM=; t=1784158091; x=1784762891; b=oDgugnjFk+SkqJVQpKo0ZFNqnppVlpF7AEZShQzuDvN9O3QQhZ47W+PcvKr8B jE5OmKCLLUex7G > From: JNugent > Newsgroups: uk.legal.moderated > Subject: Re: Threats to MPs > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2026 00:28:09 +0100 > Organization: Home User > Message-ID: > References: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Orig-X-Trace: individual.net 1MMmk3LhWEaQF36+bzT56AnxmaAo3jcsmqWW1AGz/+Eg1kH+T6 > Cancel-Lock: sha1:Un45hL1NN++0hhEOA9yNvrnMFtg= sha256:6P64i4GsjCOIj0SuGpcvUZ5CPG/0VlyS1E6mXRZ/Vio= > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 > X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 260715-4, 7/15/2026), Outbound message > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean > X-Originating-IP: 130.133.4.5 > X-ZEDAT-Hint: RO > X-Mythic-Source-External: YES > X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 68 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=6.8 > Delivered-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-BlackCat-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Mythic-Originator: uid-1081-on-lynx.mythic-beasts.com > X-STUMP-Warning-4: Unfolded headers Received: Received: Received: Received: Authentication-Results: Received: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: > > On 15/07/2026 04:52 PM, The Todal wrote: > > On 15/07/2026 14:00, JNugent wrote: > >> On 15/07/2026 09:32 AM, The Todal wrote: > >> > >>> The murder of Ann Widdecombe has resulted in a series of anecdotes from > >>> other politicians about death threats that they face regularly. > >>> > >>> Is it perhaps because Ann was a gentle old lady, probably eccentric and > >>> wrong-headed but nevertheless admired for her honesty and lack of > >>> fashion sense? I did quite like her, especially as she never really made > >>> her views more popular by her public statements. > >>> > >>> Now an MP claims that when sitting quietly in a pub he was accused by > >>> another customer of participating in Gaza's genocide. I think that > >>> should go with the territory, and if MPs want to be protected from such > >>> non-violent arguments they should stay at home or wear a disguise in > >>> public places. > >> > >> And of course, none of them should ever take their family out to the > >> cinema, theatre or for a meal, should they? > >> > >>> They want all the publicity and the attention when they > >>> are standing for election. Do they then want all arguments to be > >>> confined within the hallowed precincts of Parliament? Of course, actual > >>> threats of violence should be traced back to the sender and there should > >>> be prosecutions. > >>> > >>> https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/14/mp-death-threats- > >>> daily-reality-increasing-climate-abuse-intimidation > >>> > >>> The former victims’ minister Alex Davies-Jones said threats were a > >>> weekly occurrence for most MPs she knew. “It changes how you live your > >>> life. You’re constantly on alert and always looking out for danger,” she > >>> said. “I think it’s definitely got more severe. It feels like > >>> increasingly some members of the public feel they can openly harass and > >>> be quite aggressive.” > >>> > >>> Another male MP said they now avoided pubs after being aggressively > >>> cornered while having a drink with his wife. “Someone just launched at > >>> me over Gaza, saying that I had taken part in a genocide,” they said. > >>> “It’s just not a reasonable discussion, it’s just an attack.” > >> > >> Uni-directional, I'd say. > >> > >> I could never imagine myself haranguing anybody in a pub, for any reason. > >> > >> But there are local people of whom I am well aware (whose views I do > >> not share) who would do it in a heartbeat and regard themselves as > >> heroic for threatening an MP and frightening his or her family. > >> > >> It seems to come from one side of the political divide only. > >> > > > > Imagine if you will, being on a tube train and noticing that the person > > sitting opposite happens to be Tony Blair or Keir Starmer. > > > > Do you ignore him?. > > Yes, sir. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEfWu6wfyjzX88oocanSrwpvmn4x4FAmpYIYkACgkQnSrwpvmn 4x7oZwgAu7z5c7sCtVwSl0pGp4btMrSW0TIQ89tkKGkJBO2j6Lvp/RqNCRRAK/hD 2GPwuvJsMoUOw9JFFGKJEo6dJVktDm1FxNkKZ+YoHPaji91CBLDA9KcATVoIngrV mqOrmHDZogcNaWfF8lUkUykVLpcY2q63EUkCpMdUV4Qb6wMmnzGolhSRdZXwWxuq H/yg4AHjZjwYEkHkFvZ7ufZSF2x0sKylYhIQytcpd3BeIqi6dRXm0XuWLVX8BBop PnCbpt+lKqVyQU+G5k09XXd7PYosHw43DX0XOfIObMR6prlyDuKcdVFw1PW2VrwY 4XhMP2U7HpDYQoqdW6/RmcqTEAxfVA== =uxcH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----