From webstump at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Wed Jul 15 10:15:32 2026 Return-path: To: billy at ..on.com Subject: Re: Re: Threats to MPs References: <1137j3b$12c1r$1@dont-email.me> In-Reply-To: <1137j3b$12c1r$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: matthewv+ulmtestmod at ..riolis.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk X-Webstump-Event: [178410693230260] reject blocklist Message-Id: From: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 10:15:32 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Thank you for your message. However the moderators have rejected it because it appears to them that you have been attempting to disrupt the group by posting inappropriately. Examples of inappropriate posting include repeatedly posting a contribution that has already been rejected more than once by the moderators, or using an unacceptable posting name. You can find the group charter and moderation policy at: https://uklegal.weebly.com/ Thank you, - Moderator. ============================================ Full text of your message follows > From webstump@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Jul 15 10:15:32 2026 > Return-path: > Envelope-to: webstump+?@slimy.greenend.org.uk > Authentication-Results: mailhub-cam-d.mythic-beasts.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=eternal-september.org > Authentication-Results: name/9DB985FC0A; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=anon.com > To: uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > From: "billy bookcase" > Newsgroups: uk.legal.moderated > Subject: Re: Threats to MPs > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 10:15:21 +0100 > Organization: A noiseless patient Spider > Message-ID: <1137j3b$12c1r$1@dont-email.me> > References: > Injection-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 09:15:24 +0000 (UTC) > Cancel-Lock: sha1:Wxb8+XRi+R256NcctufQ7xiIYlM= sha256:dp5BzqqoLrm1XfWg/sJSPv0J6cfn5tN+KnKEioK7C8A= sha1:zuraC39xjVBK8vqAvR3l0r5aWSM= sha256:Ccj2QGyCIuImQS29Sc0A8Ep4jrlzdzism+CyyTQj57Y= > X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19d3gdoVAgtPctk+udK7CDCT55vbCnSLSL6cBEjqOF3hQ== > X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 > X-Priority: 3 > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on smtp > X-Mythic-Source-External: YES > X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 15 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 > Delivered-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-BlackCat-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Mythic-Originator: uid-1081-on-lynx.mythic-beasts.com > X-STUMP-Warning-0: Unfolded headers Received: Received: Received: Received: Authentication-Results: Received: Received: Received: Cancel-Lock: > > > "The Todal" wrote in message > news:nbousrFgjmjU1@mid.individual.net... > > The murder of Ann Widdecombe has resulted in a series of anecdotes from other > > politicians about death threats that they face regularly. > > > > Is it perhaps because Ann was a gentle old lady, probably eccentric and > > wrong-headed but nevertheless admired for her honesty and lack of fashion > > sense? I did quite like her, especially as she never really made her views > > more popular by her public statements. > > > > Now an MP claims that when sitting quietly in a pub he was accused by another > > customer of participating in Gaza's genocide. I think that should go with the > > territory, and if MPs want to be protected from such non-violent arguments > > they should stay at home or wear a disguise in public places. They want all > > the publicity and the attention when they are standing for election. Do they > > then want all arguments to be confined within the hallowed precincts of > > Parliament? Of course, actual threats of violence should be traced back to the > > sender and there should be prosecutions. > > > > https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/14/mp-death-threats-daily-reality-increasing-climate-abuse-intimidation > > > > The former victims' minister Alex Davies-Jones said threats were a weekly > > occurrence for most MPs she knew. "It changes how you live your life. You're > > constantly on alert and always looking out for danger," she said. "I think > > it's > > definitely got more severe. It feels like increasingly some members of the > > public feel they can openly harass and be quite aggressive." > > > > Another male MP said they now avoided pubs after being aggressively cornered > > while having a drink with his wife. "Someone just launched at me over Gaza, > > saying that I had taken part in a genocide," they said. "It's just not a > > reasonable discussion, it's just an attack." > > > Unfortunately this is symptopmatic of a coarsening of public life > exxacerbated by increasing political polarisation. Starting in the US. > Where previously political opponents and academics with differing views > could step back and share common ground, nowadays that's no longer possible > and insults are traded instead. Which then naturally seeps down to the > public, In the UK Brexit was possibly the first divisive issue where this > really became apparent. > > It's also a consequence of widespread participation in social media; where > people are losing sight of any difference between what they'd type on a > screen about someone and what they would say to their face in public. > To a respectable MP at least. Rather than say, Tommy Robinson > Buoyed up by the support they're getting for their views on social > media. > > I just happened to have been reading Jared Diamond on this topic. Who > himself has been subject to such abuse. > > > bb > > > > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEfWu6wfyjzX88oocanSrwpvmn4x4FAmpXT7QACgkQnSrwpvmn 4x6nKggAs7TzGQZv9ffRSq0wkAmXodUk2EsdAvGF133Zohw2q+h6Dl/9wrONAFkf 24I7kHfjoRgOVN5XCpomXNWAocCR+g4fwRFDdylqr6kJJ3eVyfkyg2tCCAh6cRYI TCPzljvy9H2TIIUeM052/6Gp3U+LNRV/wxy3WhrfEkYUmsGVEQFVk5hZxNzYrGZU vFaD+oAOkgdDW1W7CW4PuFJb4gDn4GtHH6wO8S1fCILviMZZfuS9wMXKhdxTwMlx xhlYCqPheqEYr1SG9SYoxcGku3IXfU1pC16xnyowc+1BU+iXm9cikhUiNuHj9iW1 QoQYyYoi+E+1XH6OIPUBizxu40OIFw== =zUYW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----