From webstump at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Wed Jul 15 09:05:31 2026 Return-path: To: billy at ..on.com Subject: Re: Re: Satellite things References: <1130bds$2thjj$1@dont-email.me> <1133823$3crrj$1@dont-email.me> <1135aat$chk1$1@dont-email.me> <1135eso$e9b0$1@dont-email.me> <1135p9o$hj5g$1@dont-email.me> <1137f01$11672$1@dont-email.me> In-Reply-To: <1137f01$11672$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: matthewv+ulmtestmod at ..riolis.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk X-Webstump-Event: [178410273016359] reject blocklist Message-Id: From: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 09:05:31 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Thank you for your message. However the moderators have rejected it because it appears to them that you have been attempting to disrupt the group by posting inappropriately. 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You can find the group charter and moderation policy at: https://uklegal.weebly.com/ Thank you, - Moderator. ============================================ Full text of your message follows > From webstump@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Jul 15 09:05:30 2026 > Return-path: > Envelope-to: webstump+?@slimy.greenend.org.uk > Authentication-Results: mailhub-hex-d.mythic-beasts.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=eternal-september.org > Authentication-Results: name/678195FC0A; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=anon.com > To: uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > From: "billy bookcase" > Newsgroups: uk.legal.moderated > Subject: Re: Satellite things > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 09:05:19 +0100 > Organization: A noiseless patient Spider > Message-ID: <1137f01$11672$1@dont-email.me> > References: <1130bds$2thjj$1@dont-email.me> <1133823$3crrj$1@dont-email.me> <1135aat$chk1$1@dont-email.me> <1135eso$e9b0$1@dont-email.me> <1135p9o$hj5g$1@dont-email.me> > Injection-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 08:05:22 +0000 (UTC) > Cancel-Lock: sha1:Jnrba/1ywsDuCjQuh3QfZYUYMPs= sha256:RQcl8jIuGHd+APJNrCT8Ae7j+l91ydPEGA4ZqxxEHYs= sha1:K14i3xTthTIdXCwghoeMg6zpkGw= sha256:2hLBrld8q9CSRbjbRD6l0ko970kOGycFM+52mBbno+M= > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 > X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original > X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX18DZXQO69DUBwA9L+gmU9hFjgelmxOSaFi2lZPq1cd6WA== > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 > X-Priority: 3 > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on smtp > X-Mythic-Source-External: YES > X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 15 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 > Delivered-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-BlackCat-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Mythic-Originator: uid-1081-on-lynx.mythic-beasts.com > X-STUMP-Warning-0: Unfolded headers Received: Received: Received: Received: Authentication-Results: Received: Received: Received: Cancel-Lock: > > > "Max Demian" wrote in message > news:1135p9o$hj5g$1@dont-email.me... > > On 14/07/2026 14:51, billy bookcase wrote: > >> "Max Demian" wrote in message > >> news:1135aat$chk1$1@dont-email.me... > >>> On 13/07/2026 18:42, Nick Finnigan wrote: > >>>> On 13/07/2026 14:39, Theo wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Ob. legal content: can it be called radio if it's a private stream sent > >>>>> over a controlled access medium to privately-owned locations? It would not > >>>>> be regulated under the radio licensing regime, for example. > >>>> > >>>> Hospital radio may predate radio licensing. > >>> > >>> I don't know when such closed circuit audio systems started, but I doubt > >>> they > >>> were called "radio" until actual radio broadcasting was common. > >> > >> If they existed they wouldn't have been "radio" in any case as there was no > >> radio transmission element. > > > > There are/were things called "hospital radio", which were wired into the > > headphones of the patients. > > But why would they have been called radio ? When there was someone sitting > in a room speaking into a microphone which was presumably connected by wire > to an amplifier which was then connected by wire to the headphones of > patients. > > There was no radio element to it, at all . > > And in any case what did the "DJ" in the room play ? Did he have a wind up > gramophone with a box of cylinders, and hold the microphone up to the horn ? > That must have been quite a tiring job. And didn't the patients eventually > get bored with listening to the same five cylinders,over and over again ? > > > bb > > > > > >> In the early days and even later, for the non technical, the sets and the > >> whole system was just as likely to be called "the wireless". or "wireless" > >> A kind of miracle; which with accumulators powering domestic sets was > >> literally true.* Except for the indoor aerial possibly running around the > >> walls of course. And that's how they were often sold > > > > "Wireless" included communication using plates buried in the ground, used for > > communication (using morse code) between the trenches in WW1. [1] > > > > "Radio" was using radio (Hertzian) waves, though later most people referred to > > it as "wireless". As we do today, with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth &c. > > > >> Quite how wired-in hospital audio could have best been described at the time > >> is therefore open to question. > > > > It was usually called "hospital radio". > > > > [1] As a teen, I experimented with using plates in the ground to send audio. > > The range was limited and there was a lot of mains hum. > > > > -- > > Max Demian > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEfWu6wfyjzX88oocanSrwpvmn4x4FAmpXP0sACgkQnSrwpvmn 4x42awf+LP23oUw6+HwNGtK6CURkboq8ZryJvR8H2wqLvWnU7xYSvD6CWRI7VFKS VGbos3gVHIzKzL0ZcHrC8GAQ9b8xlQyjk3iveTVhcEx300pRBESZs3nqR+/yXVj9 qblqOZfS5eJbPTiON6/sQjKwaWtWSS3FpqqEBX4jz93WIvcDqMhSwnYzeFaGTo8d NufPCv4ST3zIprCj5ROT/lYBBjg0y9vsGGZndMoVSmAZbEZMfhFkhXOT/htCK9YV hvLOWM+iH31nDlpbldXEhyO5Iqz8GPO68nvWA3ibyy+MWxwpjQgn2eObNXFcDwKz Lwo+M+ZlTikFnP4JSGi1Vr+sGSMwhg== =JSzG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----