From webstump at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Mon Jan 12 11:16:38 2026 Return-path: To: aero.spike at ..il.com Subject: Re: Re: Slaughter Of Animals For Food References: <8Ne8R.1523$17D6.317@fx08.ams1> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: matthewv+ulmtestmod at ..riolis.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk X-Webstump-Event: [176821562528678] reject abuse Message-Id: From: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 11:16:38 +0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 The post that you submitted to uk.legal.moderated has been rejected by a moderator. Your message appears to the moderator to be abusive or hurtful to another contributor. The group charter and moderation policy can be found at https://uklegal.weebly.com/ Disputed moderation decisions can be discussed in the newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation ============================================ Full text of your message follows > From webstump@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon Jan 12 11:00:25 2026 > Return-path: > Envelope-to: webstump+?@slimy.greenend.org.uk > Authentication-Results: mailhub-hex-d.mythic-beasts.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=uni-berlin.de; dkim=pass header.d=uni-berlin.de header.s=fub01 header.a=rsa-sha256 > X-STUMP-Warning-0: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-1: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-2: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-3: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=uni-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:From:Reply-To:Subject :Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:In-Reply-To:References; bh=4jEESE3mZlp4pvjsKoDpGAh73eE61LJ/6iuOAHrPhWo=; t=1768215624; x=1768820424; b=DRBy5wa7SN6ln1hWMBAZsB/lZeULSugf1jMr8UYq1PJWJqSvg1k8vxviLftKuEk4eEy2M6brc05 DOib2KPC4fMy > From: Spike > Newsgroups: uk.legal.moderated > Subject: Re: Slaughter Of Animals For Food > Date: 12 Jan 2026 11:00:22 GMT > Message-ID: > References: > > > <8Ne8R.1523$17D6.317@fx08.ams1> > > > > > > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Orig-X-Trace: individual.net PlObCKlBp8+1zbWV6cIHegmF+jbUbYJMv+0cPeqqxGb74iiCtu > Cancel-Lock: sha1:kqlOFMcXien2STI/lvFViWPtjUE= sha1:A8ZtGw+p3UV9kdega7hVQ4cAfg8= sha256:d9kqBiyd76+CNIUX6BK8FbJ8D6T5Gr54LOqBMG4Ae4E= > User-Agent: NewsTap/5.6.2 (iPhone/iPod Touch) > X-Originating-IP: 130.133.4.5 > X-ZEDAT-Hint: RO > X-Mythic-Source-External: YES > X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 17 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 > Delivered-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-BlackCat-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Mythic-Originator: uid-1081-on-lynx.mythic-beasts.com > X-STUMP-Warning-4: Unfolded headers Received: Received: Received: Received: Authentication-Results: Received: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: > > Jon Ribbens wrote: > > On 2026-01-11, Spike wrote: > >> Jon Ribbens wrote: > >>> On 2026-01-11, Spike wrote: > >>>> Jon Ribbens wrote: > >>>>> On 2026-01-10, Jeff Gaines wrote: > >>>>>> On 09/01/2026 in message <8Ne8R.1523$17D6.317@fx08.ams1> Sam Plusnet wrote: > >>>> > >>>> […] > >>>> > >>>>>>> "An Imam has stated" - but was he speaking Ex Cathedra? > >>>> > >>>>>> I will see if I can find the post but he may have been "On Soapbox". > >>>> > >>>>>>> In other words, would every Imam of every strand of Islam[1] agree > >>>>>>> on this point? > >>>> > >>>>>> Tell me how to find out and I'll check. > >> > >>>>> It's very easy. You'll just need to spend the rest of your life > >>>>> travelling the world, asking millions of people. > >> > >>>> That’s interesting…usually religious organisations operate on the word of > >>>> their supreme being. When did the situation change to that of a popular > >>>> consultation? > >> > >>> The question I was answering was how to find out if every Imam agrees on > >>> a particular point, so your question is irrelevant. > >> > >> Your mistake was to pose your response in the manner you did, so why did > >> you make the requirement a general one, viz ’…asking millions of people…’, > >> rather than limit it to Imams, as you have now belatedly attempted to do? > > > > lol. "belatedly". Perhaps you might want to belatedly think about what > > I said, which I suggest would have been better to do before posting a > > reply to it in public. > > > > There are billions of people in the world, but I said the question need > > only be asked of "millions". So what particular subset of the population > > of the world do you belatedly think that I might have been referring to, > > in order to find out if every Imam agrees on something? > > Every Imam will agree to the word of their god, why would anyone think > otherwise? > > > Have you come to a belated realisation yet? > > Another poster once referred to a moveable feast he called a ’Ribbins > point’, and it is clear what he meant, as you have now resiled from your > original suggestion that “You'll just need to spend the rest of your life > travelling the world, asking millions of people…”. > > >> And, having said that, since the word of god is immutable and > >> unquestionable, one should need to ask only one Imam and not the millions > >> you mentioned in your malformed question. > > > Like I said, you must for some reason be pretending to be an alien who > > has never before encountered humans. > > Like I said, stooping to an ad hom reply is one way to show the initial > argument was poorly founded. > > > -- > Spike > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEfWu6wfyjzX88oocanSrwpvmn4x4FAmlk2BYACgkQnSrwpvmn 4x47AQf+OwFPShF/tHa8DcraoD05CU1L49gTWclJwaYSMwPrqSPQSXP63mXops/p WppvPPps7oAt8COlkro7JvegTKVTahQkBmX6qVbBPchWoxz4v0Stg2ZnhRcVO0Kd YolGpcS/CTrHa+0IXkDF5tPBS1c8e2TYBbakyfZFH4wIKFcKNTsfYpjd7CeXiII6 bOHiTtGjSxRIFgTMlqLc7+4b5LZ0ZhcRfsexkLhSS9hw8S0TFgxZrbIipzyGo74q CMgnJJoT3NQg8D3vfw2YYFOjFFYz1EastFIuvNAmSlD80EnwkaAQc0su20YHoHYI bkPWeNrA4/byRnQ+bHEbQIop0w1YLg== =1KtT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----