[Uram-rejections] Smart meters and EMC

Tue Jan 31 07:59:02 GMT 2017

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> On 30/01/2017 14:53, Brian Reay wrote:
> > On 30/01/17 14:09, Andrew Marshall wrote:
> >> In message <o6f5us$hoo$2 at dont-email.me>, nev young
> >> <newsforpasiphae1953 at yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >>> On 26/01/17 17:08, Andrew Marshall wrote:
> >>>> If the 'smart' meter had its own clock-and-calendar and rates-table in
> >>>> firmware (which would not surprise me), it could change rate-of-charge
> >>>> without needing to receive or send anything.
> >>
> >>> They do.
> >>
> >>> The times and rates can be changed remotely but once set stay in force
> >>> until changed again.
> >>
> >> I thought that might be the case.
> >>
> >>> You can still 'crawl under the stairs' to read the meter but all smart
> >>> meters (AFAIK) also come with a remote readout that gives you all the
> >>> information you want via a 433.9ishMHz link. YMMV.
> >>
> >> I actually won't be interested in the display - we use the juice we use
> >> because we need, or choose, to use it. I can't imagine any situation in
> >> which we'd look at the display and think something like 'roasting thisa
> >> joint is using X worth of power, so I'll give up roast meat' or
> >> something similar.
> >
> > I suspect that some people will 'meter watch' initially but will soon
> > revert to normal consumption profiles. I read somewhere that people
> > initially followed the 'advice' to turn off things like TVs when on
> > standby but gave up after awhile, reverting to doing it when the advice
> > was repeated.
> 
> I am still an avid meter watcher.
> I have solar panels as well so that gives me incentive to use the power 
> that I generate when the sun shines and save myself even more cash. the 
> power inverter is wifi & web connected and Hive sockets mean that I can 
> switch my appliances and lights etc on and off remotely. The tumble 
> drier only goes on when the sun shines brightly and I have an electric 
> storage heater that gives background heat to the house from any power 
> generated. A bit fiddly and I did intend to have it all controlled by a 
> pi but I have not managed to get round to it yet.
> 
> I realise that I may not be the poster child for normal but I get a 
> geeky thrill out of controlling my house by phone even if I happen to be 
> halfway round the world. Eventually the shine will wear off and I will 
> stop but not for a while yet.
> 
> Andy
> 
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