sorry, but ...

[Peter Fairbrother]

Ooops, sent too soon.. this is a better version ..

sorry again,

- Peter

On 24/07/12 22:57, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> First, I'd like to apologise again to Francis, whom I probably maligned.
> I got a bit hypoglycaemic, and didn't notice, and said something silly.
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> Second, I'd like to apologise to you all, because I said I'd analyse the
> draft bill and comment and so on and I did not do so in timely fashion.
> That was just lazyness and other-busynesses, and should not have happened.
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> Here's the but - suppose a black box is connected to a UK ISP's IP
> stream, and it's looking for traffic data in traffic that's to let's say
> the Facebook or Twitter or googlemail or WoW or Habbo sites.
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> These are afaik all hosted in the US, but they have strong UK connections.
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> Let's suppose both Alice and Bob are in the UK. Now suppose Alice sends
> Bob a message through facebook, or another of the US social media sites.
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> The black box sees and finds the traffic data concerned with Alice's
> message, quite lawfully under the new bill - and the traffic data it
> sees tells it it's an external communication, a message to a server outside the UK.
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> Now suppose a SoS has signed a blanket warrant to allow the
> black-box-operating-agency, hereinafter BlackBoxHQ, to intercept all
> external communications (which he can do with a single stroke of the pen
> under RIPA 8(4)).
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> BlackBoxHQ can see that Alice's message to Bob next door is in it's
> first step actually a message to a server in the US, and thus an
> external communication - and then BlackBoxHQ can look at Alice's
> message's _content_, not just it's traffic data.
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> This applies to all of Alice's messages sent through any non-UK website,
> like Facebook or Twitter or googlemail or WoW or Habbo or..
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> More, it will be very easy for them to look at this content, as they
> already have the raw IP stream to look at.
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> BTW there's also RIPA 4)1) for the truly sceptical ..
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> -- Peter F
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