From webstump at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Wed Oct 15 12:05:05 2025 Return-path: To: JNugent73 at ..il.com Subject: Re: Re: Avoiding the embarrassment of protests References: <10c8gac$2rtg6$1@dont-email.me> <10c8i6u$2sn5n$1@dont-email.me> <10c8nfo$30417$1@dont-email.me> <10c97eh$3abph$2@dont-email.me> <10can8b$3vq5f$1@dont-email.me> <10car42$12ac$1@dont-email.me> <10cipj7$26632$2@dont-email.me> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: matthewv+ulmtestmod at ..riolis.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk X-Webstump-Event: [17605235591954] reject notnew Message-Id: From: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 12:05:05 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 The post that you submitted to uk.legal.moderated has been rejected by a moderator. This post contains insufficient new material. Similar points have been made already in this discussion, which is in danger of becoming too repetitive. The group charter and moderation policy can be found at https://uklegal.weebly.com/ Disputed moderation decisions can be discussed in the newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation ============================================ Full text of your message follows > From webstump@chiark.greenend.org.uk Wed Oct 15 11:19:19 2025 > Return-path: > Envelope-to: webstump+?@slimy.greenend.org.uk > Authentication-Results: mailhub-cam-d.mythic-beasts.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=uni-berlin.de; dkim=pass header.d=uni-berlin.de header.s=fub01 header.a=rsa-sha256 > X-STUMP-Warning-0: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-1: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-2: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-3: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=uni-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:From: Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:In-Reply-To: References; bh=xI5Ll7VU5XIh4ZMc5ikbPC8NUDinLgxqN7lNqWhWU0k=; t=1760523554; x=1761128354; b=NZzVoIjNFyOPtr6DjfB798LURPzONS54QXA+j4m050egfYpkYOh/ELuWgGk2z I1CjXErNvi809G > From: JNugent > Newsgroups: uk.legal.moderated > Subject: Re: Avoiding the embarrassment of protests > Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 11:19:12 +0100 > Organization: Home User > Message-ID: > References: <10c8gac$2rtg6$1@dont-email.me> > <10c8i6u$2sn5n$1@dont-email.me> > <10c8nfo$30417$1@dont-email.me> > > <10c97eh$3abph$2@dont-email.me> > > <10can8b$3vq5f$1@dont-email.me> > > <10car42$12ac$1@dont-email.me> > > > > > > > > <10cipj7$26632$2@dont-email.me> > > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Orig-X-Trace: individual.net NcXWCclrz/kAMEkBL1oJBwCTQ3g2mYjxqpFYEDYmDa0zhwalGM > Cancel-Lock: sha1:JgTU12EV4YJFx338IZ//aogWvkw= sha256:2rY25g/GW2CgitrerqiIutNXkk735UgjQHUEw85IiLc= > User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird > Content-Language: en-US > X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 251015-0, 10/15/2025), Outbound message > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean > X-Originating-IP: 130.133.4.5 > X-ZEDAT-Hint: RO > X-Mythic-Source-External: YES > X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 68 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=6.8 > Delivered-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-BlackCat-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Mythic-Originator: uid-1081-on-lynx.mythic-beasts.com > X-STUMP-Warning-4: Unfolded headers Received: Received: Received: Received: Authentication-Results: Received: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: > > On 15/10/2025 09:51 am, Norman Wells wrote: > > > On 14/10/2025 14:05, JNugent wrote: > >> On 14/10/2025 09:05 AM, Norman Wells wrote: > >>> On 13/10/2025 23:06, JNugent wrote: > >>>> On 13/10/2025 04:37 PM, Norman Wells wrote: > >>>>> On 13/10/2025 12:59, GB wrote: > >>>>>> On 13/10/2025 09:28, Jon Ribbens wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>> I was thinking more of people who perhaps come here for legal > >>>>>>>> advice. > >> > >>>>>>> About whether to commit terrorism? > >> > >>>>>> Or whether to do something daft like getting themselves arrested for > >>>>>> the sake of a terrorist organisation. > >> > >>>>> But it's not.  It's for the protection of free speech and peaceful > >>>>> demonstration in general. > >> > >>>> This is the less well-known sense of the word "peaceful" which means > >>>> violent and harmful to innocent third parties and their property. > >> > >>> How violent and harmful to innocent third parties were those pensioners > >>> arrested for holding placards? > >> > >> They were supporting a violent and harm-causing terrorist organisation. > > > > Not necessarily.  If their placards had said 'I'm Spartacus' would that > > mean they were all Spartacus? > > The law regards them as supporting a terrorist organisation. > > That really is the end of the story.> > > Anyway, perhaps you'd now answer the question I asked rather than > > something else. > >> > >> Some of them may be too stupid to realise that. But them's the facts. > >> Arguments as to what measures the government *should* take against > >> terorists are in the political, not legal, realm. > >> Honestly... take it to uk.politics.misc. > > > > Why are you so anxious to get rid of this?  It's a proper discussion of > > the law and its application. > > There is no doubt about what the law says. You are arguing about what it > should (in your opinion) say. > > That is political, not legal. > > Go on - take it over to ukpm and start stuffing the first thousand > entries into your killfile. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEfWu6wfyjzX88oocanSrwpvmn4x4FAmjvf+EACgkQnSrwpvmn 4x7Bewf+Jx7tkpMIEYmsHgwoGF4djfW60tuktC004DGGP3XcGmU1us+N01A0Carg U5JHiuuQ0LBzHcwr+15NFGN32PZd6F3WuC8eo8aC4MBIh9YbyOfJE4jtZELi1OGk MqTbNoArENCYiFXoeSI2/TsHT57FmB2p+zPq1pbWNkzGK8uYOWCUICjTpZv/Tdx8 nYxkipM4L827rPr4hdop3mADRK1+YEWdkjWfoLQk4j9OMNmaxQ9u4lO8L0WMoVBf ODei3FEPLz8uX4DqE8w83QP6ct/mP15dAxJID8b84AJjuB4j/Xp37v7A76QjHxQS 56Zu+LaWgH0QWqb834fQRV1f/aUb2w== =9Ebv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----