From webstump at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Sun Sep 07 07:22:19 2025 Return-path: To: JNugent73 at ..il.com Subject: Re: Re: Disingenuous police ? References: <1099lc3$3s30k$14@dont-email.me> <109fin9$2lenb$1@dont-email.me> <109i0e6$37ab9$1@dont-email.me> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: matthewv+ulmtestmod at ..riolis.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk X-Webstump-Event: [175720278723208] reject repetition Message-Id: From: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2025 07:22:18 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 The post that you submitted to uk.legal.moderated has been rejected by a moderator. This post repeats a recent post or a recent query without appearing to add anything new. You could try to discuss the topic from a different angle or wait a few weeks until it seems right to bring up this subject again. The group charter and moderation policy can be found at https://uklegal.weebly.com/ Disputed moderation decisions can be discussed in the newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation ============================================ Full text of your message follows > From webstump@chiark.greenend.org.uk Sun Sep 07 00:53:07 2025 > Return-path: > Envelope-to: webstump+?@slimy.greenend.org.uk > Authentication-Results: mailhub-hex-d.mythic-beasts.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=uni-berlin.de; dkim=pass header.d=uni-berlin.de header.s=fub01 header.a=rsa-sha256 > X-STUMP-Warning-0: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-1: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-2: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-3: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=uni-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:From: Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:In-Reply-To: References; bh=yIcFnWigqwPtTwkNzdl+yKlVfBm9PSJCSsIzQ5bPYmM=; t=1757202786; x=1757807586; b=CiznJ15wDcP1PhD6C+Ur+RXyOeEZCsVdhAZV2CbN2yOSDdhZSjuKFSg2baV+n qQ84ohbx2rXAoK > From: JNugent > Newsgroups: uk.legal.moderated > Subject: Re: Disingenuous police ? > Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2025 00:53:05 +0100 > Organization: Home User > Message-ID: > References: <1099lc3$3s30k$14@dont-email.me> <109fin9$2lenb$1@dont-email.me> <109i0e6$37ab9$1@dont-email.me> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Orig-X-Trace: individual.net Wz1mR8GLyy1YQ2Yr6J2+Mgtm6N2o2JSUVi3rjBreeZaep9A0hP > Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZFkn5GZvSaV6brafNmEcYEvSz3M= sha256:KPRXKRH2tOU8m1KJWm8kKiymOSDnjrmhaku/31q8h/U= > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 > X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 250906-6, 9/6/2025), Outbound message > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean > X-Originating-IP: 130.133.4.5 > X-ZEDAT-Hint: RO > X-Mythic-Source-External: YES > X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 53 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=5.3 > Delivered-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-BlackCat-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Mythic-Originator: uid-1081-on-lynx.mythic-beasts.com > X-STUMP-Warning-4: Unfolded headers Received: Received: Received: Received: Authentication-Results: Received: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: > > On 06/09/2025 08:01 PM, billy bookcase wrote: > > "JNugent" wrote in message news:mi2i17FlfkmU2@mid.individual.net... > >> On 05/09/2025 09:54 PM, billy bookcase wrote: > >>> "JNugent" wrote in message > >>> news:mi0hv2Fa0vtU1@mid.individual.net... > >>>> > >>>> I am not being pedantic in the slightest. The CPS does not do what you said they do - > >>>> which was to judge whether a crime has been committed. > >>>> > >>>> It considers the evidence provided by the police and makes an assessment of (a) > >>>> whether > >>>> it is in the public interest to prosecute and (b) whether there is any chance of a > >>>> conviction, given the evidence. > >>>> > >>>> In a legal newsgroup, pointing that out is absolutely not pedantry. > >>> > >>> Yes. But only after they've "already" judged that a crime had been committed ! > >> > >> You missed out the word "probably" or even "possibly". > > > > No I didn't > > OK. Have it your own way. > > As far as you are concerned, the CPS decides guilt. You must be puzzled > that the case is nevertheless referred to a court after the CPS decision. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEfWu6wfyjzX88oocanSrwpvmn4x4FAmi9JJoACgkQnSrwpvmn 4x4vLggAtQBJjkQlljYL5mAT0hoyu+li4lXHOGnYaDpFo0Vept8uq52yaLCQjFsM 2H4HWm+pP+uwGyLYCuPyI4zs2Fz5yU2vULZ4djsw9d4wOH1+0N8aI0L+TE/1AZkf WFehvE0qZRPECrIsKJdiDfLIvHbRs0ug2bf/ij8q5/8jdR7E31ZzWSaWXA4isXFT ZL/Wz4vCxh1ihgkEGoChe6DH3ROo97cvhUhaNwYvpTuRciI6cDwa3O05AvAih1pm RSVrIbKo1r1DKBAjLoLx90uHE2eFg0O9nFpUzc9JpAyfoa5oBHZP/Odbr7/Zso1+ K1zlU6tV+io5kAaLYH911M5TT3pJzQ== =Tjik -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----