From webstump at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Wed Sep 03 03:17:12 2025 Return-path: To: aero.spike at ..il.com Subject: Re: Re: =E2=80=99s story References: <1096pp3$gngh$1@dont-email.me> <1097drm$mi6l$1@dont-email.me> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: matthewv+ulmtestmod at ..riolis.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk X-Webstump-Event: [175684978028481] reject abuse Message-Id: From: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2025 03:17:12 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 The post that you submitted to uk.legal.moderated has been rejected by a moderator. Your message appears to the moderator to be abusive or hurtful to another contributor. The group charter and moderation policy can be found at https://uklegal.weebly.com/ Disputed moderation decisions can be discussed in the newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation ============================================ Full text of your message follows > From webstump@chiark.greenend.org.uk Tue Sep 02 22:49:40 2025 > Return-path: > Envelope-to: webstump+?@slimy.greenend.org.uk > Authentication-Results: mailhub-cam-d.mythic-beasts.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=uni-berlin.de; dkim=pass header.d=uni-berlin.de header.s=fub01 header.a=rsa-sha256 > X-STUMP-Warning-0: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-1: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-2: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-3: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=uni-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:From:Reply-To:Subject :Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:In-Reply-To:References; bh=po6fEIcBjmfW+3tcH0s2/P53VyW9JSxSNK5o/rSd5lo=; t=1756849774; x=1757454574; b=pjR+LLPnubbiPopNBtYBI8HmruL6QaJp5a4ndQ3SLHlye5cGnV9Igqrc62OKm07JpRmiDk1jKf3 LKtr6YbFwK1h > From: Spike > Newsgroups: uk.legal.moderated > Subject: Re: =E2=80=99s story > Date: 2 Sep 2025 21:49:32 GMT > Message-ID: > References: > > <1096pp3$gngh$1@dont-email.me> > > <1097drm$mi6l$1@dont-email.me> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Orig-X-Trace: individual.net 80JehlIvqSzDe6X0BRvivA3qaDv3ea5GhcTpt4WuuPRRI16OPp > Cancel-Lock: sha1:MhSxlnfrXz9A7aP47jTguJRLLjY= sha1:vDdsudK7af2hpuj2LHx7Vvv8pTw= sha256:TKbKT/xiJr42rbYR+zN8r7OSYc9uP0CDXHMTeJafF00= > User-Agent: NewsTap/5.6.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch) > X-Originating-IP: 130.133.4.5 > X-ZEDAT-Hint: RO > X-Mythic-Source-External: YES > X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 43 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.3 > Delivered-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-BlackCat-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Mythic-Originator: uid-1081-on-lynx.mythic-beasts.com > X-STUMP-Warning-4: Unfolded headers Received: Received: Received: Received: Authentication-Results: Received: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: > > RJH wrote: > > On 2 Sep 2025 at 14:45:40 BST, Spike wrote: > > > >>>>> Women and girls face a far greater risk in their own homes and the spaces they > >>>>> share with their own family, and social and work networks. > >> > >>>>> Do you seriously believe the Epping protesters don't know that? > >> > >>>> This sounds very much like the disgraceful “It’s only a handful, why does > >>>> it matter?” mantra. > >> > >>> It can sound however you want it to sound. Do you happen to know the answer to > >>> the question? > >> > >> Do you? All you have done is made an irrelevant assertion about VAWG by > >> trying to deflect the concerns expressed by the women and girls of Epping > >> regarding unwanted sexual advances in public places, by referring to > >> violence expressed elsewhere. > >> > > > > Of course I know - as I suspect the hotel Epping lot know. Women and girls > > face a far greater risk in their own homes and the spaces they share with > > their own family, and social and work networks. > > > > Which begs the question - why are they protesting outside hotels? > > > >> And waving a placard expressing their concerns doesn’t make them Nazis or > >> racists, despite the best efforts of the bussed-in agitators. > >> > >>>> Women and girls should be safe on our streets, rather than touched up and > >>>> asked to make babies as had been mentioned in court in a recent case. > >> > >>> Two things. One, generalising from the particular. Do you do that often? > >> > >>> Second, 'mentioned in court'. Do you take all 'mentions' as fact? > >> > >> Why are you trying to minimise the seedy aspects of the issue? > > > > I'm not. I'm trying to explain that if people want to protest about violence > > against women there are far better ways than terrorising some of the most > > terrorised people around. > > Crikey. You almost seem to be condoning migrants behaviour when they grope > underage schoolgirls and suggest making babies with them, on the grounds > that the said girls might be worse off at home. Don’t you realise just how > bad that sounds? > > -- > Spike > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEfWu6wfyjzX88oocanSrwpvmn4x4FAmi3pSgACgkQnSrwpvmn 4x49nggAtbe2PI5mLOiPW5ppEZ9ViNBeugMI/V1n42tpad6hTNEe+JXDgvLNTTgZ 1FxUUZEeghfR7Z3IQYp2wpHZ9V/R+BouhS0Tn+dBZelLXCNNVhb60K6UAhTJ/Cbd GRg55W8h2Vqh3GIG54MGlSi+XSq/LDEI1r1o0VvOXpLownJ6/jMVperFGGeZ98FB bG+dDgsv18ZeJrU90U2VqqoJ2kkutrV85Eg2g6NYg7NgSnO5AKsJtoKgfJV94UWo JZ71thRsWP+a5rBMLfwokbzDoqOpkZz/Yp9CeOC36EvAOvjYMEhaKAj4sCpYuXH5 AgGnLINj/A6PeaqqzBQPOH4Dqgh1vA== =MT7l -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----