From webstump at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Tue Sep 02 14:27:57 2025 Return-path: To: hex at ..seen.ac.am Subject: Re: Re: Removing private property from public objects, References: <108d5fi$3p51p$57@dont-email.me> <1180574064.924fb6f3@uninhabited.net> <1096b82$bg2i$3@dont-email.me> <1096jj6$bg2i$5@dont-email.me> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: matthewv+ulmtestmod at ..riolis.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk X-Webstump-Event: [175681941614357] reject abuse Message-Id: From: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2025 14:27:55 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Please repost without the final clause of the closing sentence. The post that you submitted to uk.legal.moderated has been rejected by a moderator. Your message appears to the moderator to be abusive or hurtful to another contributor. The group charter and moderation policy can be found at https://uklegal.weebly.com/ Disputed moderation decisions can be discussed in the newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation ============================================ Full text of your message follows > From webstump@chiark.greenend.org.uk Tue Sep 02 14:23:36 2025 > Return-path: > Envelope-to: webstump+?@slimy.greenend.org.uk > Authentication-Results: mailhub-hex-d.mythic-beasts.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=uni-berlin.de; dkim=pass header.d=uni-berlin.de header.s=fub01 header.a=rsa-sha256 > X-STUMP-Warning-0: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-1: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-2: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-3: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=uni-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:From: Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:In-Reply-To: References; bh=Tuu1voz6QtOIEfI3/gyJy9cQ2RbvMfIBcE12sTDvrgM=; t=1756819414; x=1757424214; b=pCh16Hx1Smjd8n1dewckQiGTUnQdUgaJriFy5UHrJpudoAQ7d9e2Ao2MHmPrc PA2IPUAsR1pXyI > From: Norman Wells > Newsgroups: uk.legal.moderated > Subject: Re: Removing private property from public objects, > Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 14:23:32 +0100 > Message-ID: > References: <108d5fi$3p51p$57@dont-email.me> > > <1180574064.924fb6f3@uninhabited.net> > <1096b82$bg2i$3@dont-email.me> > <1096jj6$bg2i$5@dont-email.me> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Orig-X-Trace: individual.net A5YXHO02X1CbP1aMAXs32AGzpXONc/QaM1dUqz6LC1j4kuqZKt > Cancel-Lock: sha1:/sHAdP3+git6bLFYWLcbQUHqkxw= sha256:8Z0+4MU1nuHkQAl2EvjnFEEoNP13qEkcnlCOEdoXS2Q= > User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird > Content-Language: en-GB > X-Originating-IP: 130.133.4.5 > X-ZEDAT-Hint: RO > X-Mythic-Source-External: YES > X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 29 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.9 > Delivered-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-BlackCat-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Mythic-Originator: uid-1081-on-lynx.mythic-beasts.com > X-STUMP-Warning-4: Unfolded headers Received: Received: Received: Received: Authentication-Results: Received: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: > > On 02/09/2025 12:14, Nick Finnigan wrote: > > On 02/09/2025 11:38, Norman Wells wrote: > >> On 02/09/2025 09:52, Nick Finnigan wrote: > >>> On 30/08/2025 08:40, Norman Wells wrote: > >>>> But it raises all sorts of other questions. Is knocking on > >>>> strangers' doors and asking such questions 'reasonable steps' and > >>>> something you'd be expected to do?  Is it in fact likely to reveal > >>>> who put it there, which I very much doubt?  Is whoever put it there > >>>> the person to whom the property belongs, which it may well not be? > >>>> And when, if at all, do they intend to remove it, or have they > >>>> abandoned it? > >>> > >>>   .. some of which are likely to have been answered in case law over > >>> the last 50 years, and influenced the CPS guidelines. > >> > >> What CPS guidelines? > > > > https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/theft-act-offences > > Care to be a bit more specific, or does term time preclude it? > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEfWu6wfyjzX88oocanSrwpvmn4x4FAmi28NsACgkQnSrwpvmn 4x7ExQf5AZkq6Mfn5CAcKAe5nafKh3i95DAqYHD/K/WCwwIjsbzbPgv8CITjOFTZ ufOvCN6FCxNHZgPDlUVQWDG4Mgbhdxva0MKeXF8Tr3XaJrY8ePRz4nfjviV/UU31 xY+bcUI7xQ583YRQIft4F2flCNUU4w0wj337CfosMjjmFDUIkY2rD67B88EnHk/p wV4wBLQfQ4IPryObgwl7hsMn5mU+zuafHS+fvlIJKERyXMA9uDGgSm+kYKfjYjc2 X1w43ew7oLE7oG7SgSAkVcEjoznGyJhv3kuV0oyQFhqcjm+8HYlNtLy8sdqeIbyV Q8Ru+dfBjY7BAhW31QZuHsftuVjU5A== =Dhrn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----