From webstump at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Tue May 27 20:21:31 2025 Return-path: To: hex at ..seen.ac.am Subject: Re: Re: Solicitor prepayment for conveyancing estate sale References: <5nt1tCF3wtKoFAu9@perry.uk> <1014ogd$2mn80$1@dont-email.me> <6285829980.a7dd5be1@uninhabited.net> <+0cE52DtafNoFA2y@perry.uk> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: matthewv+ulmtestmod at ..riolis.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk X-Webstump-Event: [174837101212102] reject notnew Message-Id: From: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 20:21:30 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 The post that you submitted to uk.legal.moderated has been rejected by a moderator. This post contains insufficient new material. Similar points have been made already in this discussion, which is in danger of becoming too repetitive. The group charter and moderation policy can be found at https://uklegal.weebly.com/ Disputed moderation decisions can be discussed in the newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation ============================================ Full text of your message follows > From webstump@chiark.greenend.org.uk Tue May 27 19:36:52 2025 > Return-path: > Envelope-to: webstump+?@slimy.greenend.org.uk > Received-SPF: pass (mailhub-hex-d.mythic-beasts.com: domain of uni-berlin.de designates 130.133.4.89 as permitted sender) client-ip=130.133.4.89; envelope-from=mod-submit@uni-berlin.de; helo=outpost5.zedat.fu-berlin.de; > X-STUMP-Warning-0: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-1: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-2: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-3: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=uni-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=VP+7mAZUXaCDsc0CILz3l+H3TscRV6JnVBdnESzVaEY=; t=1748371009; x=1748975809; b=R2tCsgRh75RKR4N > From: Norman Wells > Newsgroups: uk.legal.moderated > Subject: Re: Solicitor prepayment for conveyancing estate sale > Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 19:36:48 +0100 > Message-ID: > References: <5nt1tCF3wtKoFAu9@perry.uk> > <1014ogd$2mn80$1@dont-email.me> > <6285829980.a7dd5be1@uninhabited.net> <+0cE52DtafNoFA2y@perry.uk> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Orig-X-Trace: individual.net VQJt+WhVOy3fs4KRSmlvXgFZic3qptd0yMJx81KqeESnVkiUw+ > Cancel-Lock: sha1:m/BtDQ6JeFXvTU1vOM9E4YdJN0E= sha256:z7kg88e3aZovm+8mNQQqo0znAXTH/oAS5SZmc+4XZT8= > User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird > Content-Language: en-GB > X-Originating-IP: 130.133.4.5 > X-ZEDAT-Hint: RO > X-Mythic-Source-External: YES > X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 29 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.9 > Delivered-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-BlackCat-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Mythic-Originator: uid-1081-on-lynx.mythic-beasts.com > X-STUMP-Warning-4: Unfolded headers Received: Received: Received: Received: Received: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: > > On 27/05/2025 18:30, Roland Perry wrote: > > In message <6285829980.a7dd5be1@uninhabited.net>, at 16:20:58 on Tue, 27 > > May 2025, Roger Hayter remarked: > >> On 27 May 2025 at 17:16:13 BST, "GB" > >> wrote: > >>> On 25/05/2025 15:38, Roland Perry wrote: > >>> > >>>> "Vacant possession" for the umpteenth time, is what they commonly > >>>> describe a house that's empty when you view. Nothing whatsoever to > >>>> do with happens after the completion of the sale. > >>> > >>> I haven't seen that particular phrase used by EAs on their particulars. > >>> But, I have seen 'chain free'. 'Executor sale'. 'Mortgagees in > >>> possession'.  ('We have keys' is a more subtle version.) > >>> > >>> They all imply much the same thing: Motivated sellers, who aren't going > >>> to change their minds at the last minute, but may not be able to answer > >>> all questions fully. > >> > >> Indeed. "Vacant possession" is absolutely zero to do with whether > >> anyone is > >> living in the house at the time of viewing. > > > > That's right, but it's the words frequently used by agents to attempt to > > entice more viewings. > > *All* words used by estate agents are an attempt to secure viewings and > sales. > > However, your unshakeable misunderstanding of what 'vacant possession' > means, despite all the evidence to the contrary, and your apparent > dismissive attitude towards legal professionals, do give me concerns > about your willingness to accept that you may not be entirely correct > either as regards executorship and administration of the estate we're > considering in this thread. > > Sorry to be frank. 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