From webstump at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Mon May 26 16:22:50 2025 Return-path: To: fredxx at ..am.invalid Subject: Re: Re: Solicitor struck off for criticising Israel on Twitter References: <3201921772.896c09d4@uninhabited.net> <10049d9$31q8v$1@dont-email.me> <0497084293.40eae291@uninhabited.net> <1005aro$3861h$2@dont-email.me> <100sim4$nq8f$1@dont-email.me> <100sn6b$ojre$2@dont-email.me> <1011rp7$20tc6$4@dont-email.me> In-Reply-To: <1011rp7$20tc6$4@dont-email.me> Reply-To: matthewv+ulmtestmod at ..riolis.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk X-Webstump-Event: [174826762726154] reject abuse Message-Id: From: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 16:22:50 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 The post that you submitted to uk.legal.moderated has been rejected by a moderator. Your message appears to the moderator to be abusive or hurtful to another contributor. The group charter and moderation policy can be found at https://uklegal.weebly.com/ Disputed moderation decisions can be discussed in the newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation ============================================ Full text of your message follows > From webstump@chiark.greenend.org.uk Mon May 26 14:53:47 2025 > Return-path: > Envelope-to: webstump+?@slimy.greenend.org.uk > Received-SPF: pass (mailhub-cam-d.mythic-beasts.com: domain of eternal-september.org designates 95.216.221.164 as permitted sender) client-ip=95.216.221.164; envelope-from=news@eternal-september.org; helo=smtp.eternal-september.org; > Authentication-Results: name/6541F609FB; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=spam.invalid > To: uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > From: Fredxx > Newsgroups: uk.legal.moderated > Subject: Re: Solicitor struck off for criticising Israel on Twitter > Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 14:53:43 +0100 > Organization: A noiseless patient Spider > Message-ID: <1011rp7$20tc6$4@dont-email.me> > References: > <3201921772.896c09d4@uninhabited.net> <10049d9$31q8v$1@dont-email.me> > <0497084293.40eae291@uninhabited.net> > > > <1005aro$3861h$2@dont-email.me> > > > <100sim4$nq8f$1@dont-email.me> > <100sn6b$ojre$2@dont-email.me> > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Injection-Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 15:53:43 +0200 (CEST) > User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird > Cancel-Lock: sha1:nWxLXy2ZQRtYEb49z8LdWWPbQLY= > Content-Language: en-GB > X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/qKijYUugDoW16OsWCQ5FcxGOviwq/z7A= > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on smtp.eternal-september.org > X-Mythic-Source-External: YES > X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 25 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.5 > Delivered-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-BlackCat-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Mythic-Originator: uid-1081-on-lynx.mythic-beasts.com > X-STUMP-Warning-0: Unfolded headers Received: Received: Received: Received: Received: Received: Received: X-Spam-Checker-Version: > > On 26/05/2025 12:38, Pamela wrote: > > On 19:01 25 May 2025, The Todal said: > >> On 25/05/2025 14:53, JNugent wrote: > >>> On 25/05/2025 14:28, The Todal wrote: > >>>> On 25/05/2025 08:36, JNugent wrote: > >>>>> On 24/05/2025 16:04, Fredxx wrote: > >>>>>> On 24/05/2025 14:47, GB wrote: > >>>>>>> On 24/05/2025 12:59, The Todal wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hospital lose their right to protection in a war if they are > >>>>>>>>> being used for military purposes, and there are some specific > >>>>>>>>> caveats. This has been gone through many times before without > >>>>>>>>> conclusion, and it's pointless rehearsing the arguments again. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> No hospitals in Gaza have been used for military purposes. The > >>>>>>>> IDF tells blatant lies about this, and pretends that if any > >>>>>>>> Hamas official is present in a hospital it means it has become > >>>>>>>> a command and control centre justifying the murder by the IDF > >>>>>>>> of all the patients. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There are clearly two versions of this story, and an absence of > >>>>>>> unbiased, verifiable facts. It would be better if people didn't > >>>>>>> present opinions as facts. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There is no verifiable evidence that hospitals have been used for > >>>>>> military purposes. There, that's better. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It has been verified that the IDF have identified drainage > >>>>>> channels as Hamas Command centres in a school next to a school > >>>>>> they were targeting. > >>>>> > >>>>> Why is it impossible for an underground drainage system to be > >>>>> utilised as a military command centre? > >>> > >>>> If you know your enemies are in an underground tunnel, why is it > >>>> impossible to send Israeli troops into the tunnel, to machine gun > >>>> the terrorists, to use flamethrowers, to use CS gas? > >>> > >>> I dare say that it isn't actually impossible. Just very unwise to > >>> risk the lives of one's troops when the objective can be achieved by > >>> other means. > >>> > >>> I wonder why the British and American armies didn't assault Monte > >>> Cassino on foot, advancing up the slopes of the mountain? Was it > >>> cowardly to bombard the German machine gun nests from the air? > >>>> > >>>> Why is it considered so much better to bomb the buildings that are > >>>> over the tunnel, and kill the people in the buildings all of whom > >>>> are likely to be non-combatants? > >>> > >>> As indicated above, that is an equation which has to be calculated > >>> by the command staff. *Some* generals have indeed made decisions > >>> which ensured the deaths of unconscionable numbers of their own > >>> soldiers. Those of the USSR and eventually, Germany, did that. > >>>> > >>>> There must be a reason. One possibility is that the Israeli > >>>> soldiers are too cowardly to meet with their enemies face to > >>>> face.  Or maybe their commanders are incompetent and unskilled, > >>>> and firmly believe that dropping bombs is the best way of winning a > >>>> war. Or maybe they just like to slaughter innocent civilians > >>>> because they have a half- assed belief that the civilians might > >>>> turn on Hamas and kill Hamas. > >>> > >>> Have you ever thought of offering your undoubted military acumen and > >>> command skills to the British armed forces? They're another bunch > >>> who don't like seeing their men killed when there's an alternative > >>> and see it as a priority to avaoid that at more or less all costs.. > >>> > >> > >> I think what you are saying, in effect, is that you trust the IDF to > >> be honest and truthful and to do whatever it can to keep civilian > >> casualties to a minimum - and you trust them as much as you would > >> trust our own dear RAF and our own commanders in past wars. > >> > >> Whereas all the indications are that the IDF and the Israeli > >> government are doing their level best to prevent journalists > >> reporting from Gaza and are peddling false propaganda which even Sir > >> Keir Starmer can no longer take seriously. > >> > >> The IDF wants to kill as many civilians as possible > > > > Is there any proof for that? > > Proof of the pudding and all that. To any observer who isn't obsessed > with hatred of muslims it should be obvious. > > > If it is a stated aim of the IDF, then why are they doing such a poor > > job of it? The number of civilian deaths in Gaza in not remarkable for > > an urban war against terrorists such as Mosul or Aleppo. > > It is a stated aim of Netanyahu to rid Gaza of indigenous Gazans. He > does happen to control the IDF. > > One wonders why you place a political goal with a military force, has > there been a coup? > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEfWu6wfyjzX88oocanSrwpvmn4x4FAmg0h0oACgkQnSrwpvmn 4x74SAf9H9JH8P721iESyxKcRcgPsbZlkkmXvrDSXtxraZug9hSdm8c5tgmEVvQD 75Rr/rnjdiAYUaJ/FOb3mR1RjX0HvMAmGfsU/ZByZsHhrMi94K2P+c3tjC9EIzx6 +gX8q3yokio9rOzpiqN8wJwOWdue1D5Ft0xpeVbxZqaif7BHmZuIBAO7ko8Pdu4o tdokSVMCUGe4uX6y9IUvNbdrcPCihXdIr4EuXw1swX5CMAeGygUKxthNZ77ohZDl ftr5aNq17WBW5GqiAlRRVhjPWd0A/CzEWe+tg5HYhbpqPcBcJm1pakG9zmqW+Wun GMiNgVjZcpQyTZALDHY7i10+KhJr2g== =TVvl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----