From webstump at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Thu May 22 14:52:47 2025 Return-path: To: hex at ..seen.ac.am Subject: Re: Re: Interesting citizenship Q. References: <1009q0k$bqfu$2@dont-email.me> <100a5e2$dcon$2@dont-email.me> <100d3do$1au6$1@gal.iecc.com> <100d4i9$fl49$4@dont-email.me> <100f5vc$1jmmf$2@dont-email.me> <100frdm$1ngs9$8@dont-email.me> <100hr0e$27cpe$1@dont-email.me> <100iodg$2dfbd$2@dont-email.me> <100mums$3du92$1@dont-email.me> <100mvgd$3du92$2@dont-email.me> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: matthewv+ulmtestmod at ..riolis.greenend.org.uk Errors-To: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk X-Webstump-Event: [174792006628862] reject notnew Message-Id: From: webstump+ulm-bounces at ..iark.greenend.org.uk Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 14:52:45 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 The post that you submitted to uk.legal.moderated has been rejected by a moderator. This post contains insufficient new material. 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The group charter and moderation policy can be found at https://uklegal.weebly.com/ Disputed moderation decisions can be discussed in the newsgroup uk.net.news.moderation ============================================ Full text of your message follows > From webstump@chiark.greenend.org.uk Thu May 22 14:21:06 2025 > Return-path: > Envelope-to: webstump+?@slimy.greenend.org.uk > Received-SPF: pass (mailhub-cam-d.mythic-beasts.com: domain of uni-berlin.de designates 130.133.4.89 as permitted sender) client-ip=130.133.4.89; envelope-from=mod-submit@uni-berlin.de; helo=outpost5.zedat.fu-berlin.de; > X-STUMP-Warning-0: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-1: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-2: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > X-STUMP-Warning-3: Next header (DKIM-Signature) truncated! > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=uni-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=NpkrTff6WUU0PzkydILwjWr4ghgutlPHjaQIul02cYE=; t=1747920064; x=1748524864; b=Q9C4pUZi/YFkzFE > From: Norman Wells > Newsgroups: uk.legal.moderated > Subject: Re: Interesting citizenship Q. > Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 14:21:01 +0100 > Message-ID: > References: <1009q0k$bqfu$2@dont-email.me> > <100a5e2$dcon$2@dont-email.me> > <100d3do$1au6$1@gal.iecc.com> <100d4i9$fl49$4@dont-email.me> > <100f5vc$1jmmf$2@dont-email.me> > <100frdm$1ngs9$8@dont-email.me> > <100hr0e$27cpe$1@dont-email.me> > <100iodg$2dfbd$2@dont-email.me> > <100mums$3du92$1@dont-email.me> > <100mvgd$3du92$2@dont-email.me> > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Orig-X-Trace: individual.net QeXoy0fpx1iNiGzmbK9SygCl7gM+ltGmY1Kp/su/sguCmCG+HU > Cancel-Lock: sha1:a6YTswOD5R557QCgFECtA2Pc00s= sha256:zMGxaT4oDStzWnkYvLmEKwVPH10d9p0n7VA+xw4xqB0= > User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird > Content-Language: en-GB > X-Originating-IP: 130.133.4.5 > X-ZEDAT-Hint: RO > X-Mythic-Source-External: YES > X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 29 > X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.9 > Delivered-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-BlackCat-To: usenet-uk-legal-moderated@usenet.org.uk > X-Mythic-Originator: uid-1081-on-lynx.mythic-beasts.com > X-STUMP-Warning-4: Unfolded headers Received: Received: Received: Received: Received: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: DKIM-Signature: > > On 22/05/2025 12:44, Simon Parker wrote: > > On 22/05/2025 12:16, Norman Wells wrote: > >> On 22/05/2025 11:49, Fredxx wrote: > >>> On 22/05/2025 11:36, Fredxx wrote: > > > >>>> http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/act-242/section-7481.html > >>>> > >>>> HTH > >>> > >>> Do note that section 1A only applies to males. :-) > >> > >> Not according to rules that have traditionally applied in statutory > >> interpretation where masculine language means people regardless of > >> their gender. > > > > This is foreign legislation.  Referring to "rules" that may apply here > > does not cut it, I'm afraid. > > > > The question before us is: Does such a rule on interpretation exist in > > Bangladeshi Law? > > > > I'll save you the time of a Google search and say, yes it does. > > > > The General Clauses Act, 1897, section 13 [^1]: > > > > > > GENERAL RULES OF CONSTRUCTION > > > > Gender and number > > > > 13. In all [Acts of Parliament] [^2] and Regulations, unless there is > > anything repugnant in the subject or context,- > > > > (1) words importing the masculine gender shall be taken to include > > females; and > > > > (2) words in the singular shall include the plural, and vice versa. > > > > > > You are to be thanked for demonstrating so wonderfully the difficulties > > that inevitably arise when interpreting foreign law and why it is not as > > simple as some claim it to be.  The irony! > > But it's not a difficulty at all. However much you like to go round the > houses and can't see the wood for the trees, the situation is exactly as > I said it was. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEfWu6wfyjzX88oocanSrwpvmn4x4FAmgvLC0ACgkQnSrwpvmn 4x6qVgf+L29VyrsHLBE6iqYet+U/mVHgejWElSLQ0tWSkkVq+au+UYrmPuip4ecT EgvzCilyRrFMc74W2dX78k+stp1uQs6WSU1RKFPEot23xTvnLDzX9n/VIwvv+94W Ycw7XMLwsjYy9w6bxAQPuEJ7KO3bcBqY/EoSIX4zW2my6ZaEEUOqcnCTt5fAjv+J 5zmrRkD2yAWpkk4qXxavjykZeqwmzbpZ4mcQzzBZIA6NUYhEVIq66wOGIKIlGDNn mUslX1+EX5Kp+WIzhiRx3Cwg8UsoMO334ktEwOG6M9orO/4DA9MhryUyZqV64uu3 kwtOF1F0uJ3pAxfQbWfBfgn1LNzzWA== =enAd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----