To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org CC: antiharassment@debian.org Subject: Do not contact this person IRL either (Re: I resigned in 2004) Newsgroups: chiark.mail.debian.devel In-Reply-To: <7bd9de51e583bbbda2a7cae229793e820871f04d.camel@debian.org> References: <20181109185657.GU3074@bombadil.infradead.org> <20181109202929.GW2652@mapreri.org> <154184554215.7461.9408352613113636810@auryn.jones.dk> <7bd9de51e583bbbda2a7cae229793e820871f04d.camel@debian.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) FCC: ~/mail/Outbound --text follows this line-- A Debian contributor tells me in private conversation that they encountered this ex-Developer in real life, and that during that conversation they told this ex-Developer they disapproved of the ex-Developer's messages in this thread. DO NOT DO THIS. Do not raise these issues with this ex-Developer unless they invite you to do so. I have spoken in private to the Debian contributor in question and made it clear that I felt what they did was harassment of our former colleague. As an isolated incident it is a very minor abuse, but from the other end, if done by several people, it might easily amount to a serious harassment or retaliation campaign. Furthermore, the current contributor in question confessed to me that they made these remarks even after being told that our former colleague didn't want to talk about it. IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU, IN PERSON, THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING, DO NOT TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT. Finally, this does not mean you should ostracise or exclude our former colleague in other contexts, or refuse to speak to them. If you cannot bring yourself to be friendly, at least be formal but cordial. (I don't know that this advice is actually necessary but it seems wise to write it.) Excuse the shouting, but, really. It is very unfortunate that I am having to explain these rather basic principles. Ian. -- Ian Jackson These opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.