30 into 14 best min fragment found: 6 Cut up 30 sticks of length 14 like this: 30 x (6 + 8) Reassemble as 14 sticks of length 30 like this: 10 x (6 + 8 + 8 + 8) 4 x (6 + 6 + 6 + 6 + 6)