[Uram-rejections] 70MHz CW contest tomorrow

Mon May 13 19:58:12 BST 2019

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> Subject: Re: 70MHz CW contest  tomorrow
> Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 19:21:16 +0100
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> References: <K$dcDDOyrx1cFwQE at b-howie.co.uk> <qb8fau$enk$1 at dont-email.me> <Yo9oGDG85E2cFwa2 at b-howie.co.uk> <XdNGrLH6HH2cFwpF at brattleho.plus.com> <qbbkp6$u8s$1 at dont-email.me> <T9BHj8EJ+X2cFwLk at brattleho.plus.com> <qbc3a5$ni8$1 at dont-email.me>
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> On 13/05/2019 16:42, Jim wrote:
> > "Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVETHISjackson at g3ohx.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:T9BHj8EJ+X2cFwLk at brattleho.plus.com...
> >> In message <qbbkp6$u8s$1 at dont-email.me>, Jim <kinvig.netta at ntlworld.com>
> >> writes
> >>>
> >>> "Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVETHISjackson at g3ohx.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>> news:XdNGrLH6HH2cFwpF at brattleho.plus.com...
> >>>> In message <Yo9oGDG85E2cFwa2 at b-howie.co.uk>, Brian Howie
> >>>> <brian at b-howie.co.uk> writes
> >>>>> In message <qb8fau$enk$1 at dont-email.me>, Jim <kinvig.netta at ntlworld.com>
> >>>>> writes
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Brian Howie" <brian at b-howie.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:K$dcDDOyrx1cFwQE at b-howie.co.uk...
> >>>>>>> Sun 12th May  09:00 UTC till 12:UTC
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'll be on from Edinburgh. I hope the band isn't as noisy as  it
> >>>>>>> usually
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 4m and CW . What is there not to like?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Brian GM4DIJ
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Class Bs would say CW....
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I  work a quite a few G*8s and the like on VHF CW. In the days of the B
> >>>>> licence, this was forbidden. I could only use CW  then on an A call
> >>>>> under
> >>>>> supervision.
> >>>>>
> >>>> That was indeed an extremely weird restriction. Presumably someone felt
> >>>> that using morse was a privilege too far for those who had not actually
> >>>> demonstrated their ability to use it. They probably considered that it
> >>>> was
> >>>> wrong for Class-Bs to be allowed to enjoy the same facilities as
> >>>> Class-As
> >>>> (even if only at VHF/UHF). The truth is, of course, that there was
> >>>> absolutely no technical no reason why Class-Bs should have been
> >>>> prevented
> >>>> from using morse, and in practice it would have encouraged them to be
> >>>> able
> >>>> work up their speed by having live QSOs, and eventually taking the test.
> >>>
> >>> I have no idea why people who wanted a technicians Licence in those days
> >>> would want to use CW .........if they wanted to DX and not just use a
> >>> radio
> >>> telephone they had the operchancity to pass the 12wpm test rather than
> >>> slow
> >>> everybody down using it on v/uhf...I don't get it ......
> >>
> >> Who mentioned DX?
> >
> > Brian howie with his 4m cw contest?......
> >>
> >> Surely there's no better way to work up your speed and hone your operating
> >> skills than having 'real' QSOs (albeit maybe a little slower than usual)?
> >> Most gentlemanly operators would have been only too pleased to slow down
> >> and help those aspiring to get a Class-A callsign.
> >
> > I knew in '73 that if I went for a class B I probably wouldn't bother with
> > CW and just go on and chat to the locals so I didn't do it and I didn't look
> > upon going from class A to class B as a progression ....I thought you got
> > whatever Licence that suited your interests and Mine was HF due to years of
> > short wave listening so I spent six months acquiring the skill to get the
> > Licence I wanted...... It is distressing to me that when the Foundation
> > license came in that 7,000 class Bs went for an M3 thus proving that they
> > just went for the class B and stayed with it because they couldn't the gain
> > the skills required to get the Licence they really wanted and hence all the
> > trouble and strife within ham radio.....Without the CW requirement things
> > are different these days and it IS a progression from FL to full although it
> > is unfortunate that an abused FL gives people what they want i.e. full
> > access to almost all the ham bands and abuse is part of their nature as
> > almost all came from 11m freebanding.
> >
> >
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