[Uram-rejections] How leaving the EU might affect radio UK amateurs

Fri Aug 19 19:12:29 BST 2016

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> From: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <james.stewart497 at ntlworld.com>
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> Subject: Re: How leaving the EU might affect radio UK amateurs
> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 18:22:31 +0100
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> "Brian Reay" <no.sp at m.com> wrote in message 
> news:nog42o$k78$1 at dont-email.me...
> > On 09/08/16 20:53, Phi wrote:
> >>
> >> "Brian Reay" <no.sp at m.com> wrote in message
> >> news:nod2q5$v1j$1 at dont-email.me...
> >>> On 09/08/16 14:40, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
> >>>> Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson at g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyway, the point I'm making is that it is possible that our
> >>>>> now-familiar ability to operate freely in Europe could be made
> >>>>> distinctly more difficult if customs go back to the old bureaucratic
> >>>>> system. Possession of an amateur licence will not give you any special
> >>>>> dispensation to enter Europe with dutiable equipment.
> >>>>
> >>>> It'll be interesting to see how it all pans out. I wouldn't be at all
> >>>> surprised if amateur radio is forgotten about as the government wade
> >>>> through sorting out the whole mess. Quite besides the issue of duty and
> >>>> transporting equipment, will CEPT operating continue to be permissible?
> >>>> It's not an EU thing, AIUI.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Any amateur who
> >>>>> voted to leave the EC may like reflect on the consequences of their
> >>>>> actions!
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd like to think that this trifling issue will be the least thing that
> >>>> causes them to feel regrexit.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't see why, a number of none EU countries honour CEPT, including
> >>> the US.
> >>>
> >>> Likewise, as for carrying kit, it isn't a problem not when you go to
> >>> say, the USA, why should it be in Europe? Why is a radio any different
> >>> to say a laptop or camera if carried for personal use and you plan to
> >>> bring it home with you? When I travelled on business, outside the EU,
> >>> equipment for business purposes had all kinds of paperwork, sometimes
> >>> it was a nightmare. A laptop counted a part of 'equipment' was
> >>> included on such paperwork, a similar (if not identical save SW)
> >>> laptop which was for my Emails etc was counted a 'personal' and didn't
> >>> need paperwork. The first one could well be checked in some detail
> >>> against the paperwork. No attention was ever paid to the one in my
> >>> brief case, even if I got it out to look at some details of the
> >>> customs paperwork.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> On all my trips abroad for the last 5 years, the laptop or netbook had
> >> to come out of the briefcase and be scanned separately.
> >
> > True but that is just security, not a customs matter. Depending on the 
> > airport, they sometimes scan shoes, or remove belts, watches, etc. Going 
> > to the US recently I had to remove my watch and I think shoes, coming back 
> > I don't think I did.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> do they ask for wigs to be removed as well? ..... 
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