From davidh@spidacom.co.uk Tue Jan 4 12:03:39 2005 From: davidh@spidacom.co.uk (David Hansen) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:03:39 -0000 Subject: [ukIDcards] Re: ID card bills before parliament In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <41DA861B.2285.1527B5@localhost> On 3 Jan 2005 at 11:59, mark simpkins wrote in ukcrypto: > Sorry to get back to the id cards. Just a quick question, is this the > first time a bill for ID cards has been put before parliament? No, but the last time was in 1939 when even more rights were removed from the public without much of a murmur by the bods in Westminster. Whether the various horsemen being desperately wheeled out by the Home Office in rapid succession to "justify" "identity" cards are more dangerous to the people of the UK than Adolf Hitler and his cronies is a matter for discussion. ukidcards@chiark.greenend.org.uk added to attempt to divert discussion there. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will *always* explain why I revoke a key, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000. From lists@internetpolicyagency.com Wed Jan 5 13:04:15 2005 From: lists@internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:04:15 +0000 Subject: [ukIDcards] I have no connection with these folks, but it sounds like an interesting meeting: Message-ID: Identity, Technology and the Public Interest: New Directions for Research and Public Policy 17 January 2005 14:00 - 17:00 Chartered Institute for Public Finance and Accountancy, 3 Robert Street, London WC2N 6RL ID cards, biometrics and other technologies for collecting and managing information about the identity of individuals raise many issues for policy and practice. This joint ippr-OII forum will bring together researchers, practitioners and policy-makers to discuss some of the most recent developments in research and public policy. The agenda is designed to stimulate and inform debate and help build a community of people with an interest in tying research to policy and practice in this critical area. Speakers include: William Dutton, Oxford Internet Institute; Will Davies, IPPR; Miriam Lips, Oxford Internet Institute; John Taylor, Oxford Internet Institute; Stefaan Verhulst, Markle Foundation; Andrew Pinder, Consultant and former E-envoy; Matthew Kabatoff, Goldsmiths College. This event is free and open to the public. If you wish to attend, you must register your name and affiliation, if any, with events@oii.ox.ac.uk Further details are available at http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/collaboration/?rq=specialevents/20050117 -- Roland Perry From davidh at spidacom.co.uk Tue Jan 4 12:03:39 2005 From: davidh at spidacom.co.uk (David Hansen) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:03:39 -0000 Subject: [ukIDcards] Re: ID card bills before parliament In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <41DA861B.2285.1527B5@localhost> On 3 Jan 2005 at 11:59, mark simpkins wrote in ukcrypto: > Sorry to get back to the id cards. Just a quick question, is this the > first time a bill for ID cards has been put before parliament? No, but the last time was in 1939 when even more rights were removed from the public without much of a murmur by the bods in Westminster. Whether the various horsemen being desperately wheeled out by the Home Office in rapid succession to "justify" "identity" cards are more dangerous to the people of the UK than Adolf Hitler and his cronies is a matter for discussion. ukidcards@chiark.greenend.org.uk added to attempt to divert discussion there. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will *always* explain why I revoke a key, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000. From lists at internetpolicyagency.com Wed Jan 5 13:04:15 2005 From: lists at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:04:15 +0000 Subject: [ukIDcards] I have no connection with these folks, but it sounds like an interesting meeting: Message-ID: Identity, Technology and the Public Interest: New Directions for Research and Public Policy 17 January 2005 14:00 - 17:00 Chartered Institute for Public Finance and Accountancy, 3 Robert Street, London WC2N 6RL ID cards, biometrics and other technologies for collecting and managing information about the identity of individuals raise many issues for policy and practice. This joint ippr-OII forum will bring together researchers, practitioners and policy-makers to discuss some of the most recent developments in research and public policy. The agenda is designed to stimulate and inform debate and help build a community of people with an interest in tying research to policy and practice in this critical area. Speakers include: William Dutton, Oxford Internet Institute; Will Davies, IPPR; Miriam Lips, Oxford Internet Institute; John Taylor, Oxford Internet Institute; Stefaan Verhulst, Markle Foundation; Andrew Pinder, Consultant and former E-envoy; Matthew Kabatoff, Goldsmiths College. This event is free and open to the public. If you wish to attend, you must register your name and affiliation, if any, with events@oii.ox.ac.uk Further details are available at http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/collaboration/?rq=specialevents/20050117 -- Roland Perry