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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/08/13 13:42, Ian Batten wrote:<br>
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      <div>You have to wonder at the people the BBC talks to:<br>
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              rgb(255, 255, 255); ">"The problem stems from the way that
              the fixed internet has been designed," said Prof Rahim
              Tafazolli, director of Surrey University's Centre for
              Communications Systems Research.</p>
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              rgb(255, 255, 255); ">"Many people can share a single IP
              address and the IP address may be dynamic - meaning
              there's a new address issued each time they log on - while
              a communication traverses across different networks. It
              can be difficult to link all these addresses and trace
              them back to the origin.</p>
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    Moreover it is not a bug, it *is* a feature...<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3022">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3022</a><br>
    "Traditional NAT can be viewed as providing a privacy mechanism..."<br>
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              rgb(255, 255, 255); ">"One possible solution would be to
              find a way to associate a person's internet use with a
              fixed and unique number such as their mobile number or a
              device's MAC [media access control] address.</p>
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              rgb(255, 255, 255); position: static; z-index: auto; ">"But
              that would require changes in the way addresses are
              allocated on the internet and changes would need to be
              adopted internationally because we couldn't just change it
              in the UK."</p>
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            black; text-align: left; ">Yeah.  You mean "IPv6 would be a
            good idea", I think.</div>
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    Somebody should tell Surrey about <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4941">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4941</a><br>
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    For next few hours you can see the most appalling load of biased
    tosh towards end of <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01sfxqc/Daily_Politics_07_05_2013/">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01sfxqc/Daily_Politics_07_05_2013/</a><br>
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    Would be good if <a
      href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mjxb/faq">BBC got some
      complaints</a> that viewers left clueless of:<br>
    - substance of IP issue,
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    - that EU DRD made-in-Britain,
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    - preservation/retention dichotomy
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    - ISC refuses hear evidence from outside govt. (unlike Aus, Can, US
    counterparts)
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    Absence of above context makes charge of LibDem irresponsibility a
    Charter-breaching issue
    of political bias<br>
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    Caspar<br>
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