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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">FYI - a lot of this comes from the work
      Kim Cameron and I did when I was with Microsoft (until Sep 2011)<br>
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      If one clicks through the referenced .pdf to <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/ct/pec-workshop.cfm">http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/ct/pec-workshop.cfm</a> it is evident
      there are some serious people involved<br>
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      Although I do not have warm words for Microsoft's activities in
      privacy, the concepts pursued here are IMHO still valid, 12 years
      after Brands' PhD thesis and 20 years after Chaum's SciAm article
      on privacy in e-govt.<br>
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      Building these kinds of system <u>without</u> such technology
      (and especially without a horizontal Data Protection law rather
      stronger than EU95/46 or the new Regulation) is just building a
      humongous transactional surveillance system...<br>
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      Despite many to educate HMG since 2006 in many fora, AFAIK the UK
      version of NSTIC does <u>not</u> have any similar genuine PET
      element (slender hope that it is in NSTIC), and <u>will</u> be a
      humongous transactional surveillance system...<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/national-virtual-id-card-scheme-set-for-launch-is-there-anything-that-could-possibly-go-wrong-8196543.html">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/national-virtual-id-card-scheme-set-for-launch-is-there-anything-that-could-possibly-go-wrong-8196543.html</a><br>
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      Caspar<br>
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      On 17/12/12 07:40, Peter Tomlinson wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote cite="mid:50CEBE60.4020001@iosis.co.uk" type="cite">This,
      I'm well aware, is a UK group, but from across the pond comes news
      of NSTIC and the USA Identity Ecosystem Pilots:
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://nstic.blogs.govdelivery.com/2012/12/13/seeking-small-business-partners-to-evaluate-nstic-identity-ecosystem-pilots/">http://nstic.blogs.govdelivery.com/2012/12/13/seeking-small-business-partners-to-evaluate-nstic-identity-ecosystem-pilots/</a>
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      Seasons Greetings,
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      Peter
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