help

Chris Salter ukcrypto at originalthinktank.org.uk
Wed Mar 28 13:16:41 BST 2012


On 28/03/2012 12:06, Brian L Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My posts to UKCrypto are occasionally being bounced. The apparently
> offending IP address is 46.183.10.85 but that's not showing up on, for
> eg,
> http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a46.183.10.85
> so I guess it's on a personal blocklist?


Your previous successful list post (at least I received it) included the 
following headers:

> X-SAUCE-Notice: (chiark.greenend.org.uk) Irritated 22055ms (delays likely)
> 	with 2.array1.smtp.34sp.com [46.183.10.81]
> Received: from 2.array1.smtp.34sp.com ([46.183.10.81])
> 	by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.9.0)
> 	with esmtp id sauce-8473-1332440-1; 22 Mar 2012 18:13:58 +0000 (GMT)
> Received: from lvs3.34sp.com ([80.82.124.221]:47492
> 	helo=smtpauth2.smtp1.array.34sp.com)
> 	by 2.array1.smtp.34sp.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256)
> 	(Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <brian at thejohnsons.co.uk>)
> 	id 1SAljW-0001Kh-G8
> 	for ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:23:30 +0000

In fact your current 'help'post includes headers of smtp servers at 
34sp.com and SAUCE appears to be running on those servers.

> Registrant:
>  34SP.com Ltd.
>  Portland Tower
>   Portland Stree
>  Manchester, Greater Manchester M1 3LF
>  GB
>
>  Domain name: 34SP.COM
>
>
>  Administrative Contact:
>     Hostmaster, 34SP.com  **********@34SP.com
>     37 Turner Street
>     Manchester, Greater Manchester M4 1DW
>     GB
>     +44.1612001855
>  Technical Contact:
>     Hostmaster, 34SP.com  **********@34SP.com
>     37 Turner Street
>     Manchester, Greater Manchester M4 1DW
>     GB
>     +44.1612001855

SAUCE is a 'anti-spam SMTP mail filter'.
http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/sauce

I'm not an expert in analysing headers but my initial assumption would 
be that it 'belongs' to the recipients network service rather than yours 
i.e. Virgin. I started to research greenend.org.uk but hit Tucows so 
decided to call it a day! :-)

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Chris

> The exact message I'm getting back is:
>
>> *----------8<-----cut here-----8<-----------*
>> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>> ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
>> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT
>> TO:<ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk>:
>> host mx-relay.chiark.greenend.org.uk [212.13.197.229]:
>> 550 Blacklisted site `[46.183.10.85]' [Irritated]
>> ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------
>> Return-path: <brian at thejohnsons.co.uk>
>> Received: from lvs3.34sp.com ([80.82.124.221]:38122
>> helo=smtpauth1.array1.smtp.34sp.com)
>> by 3.array1.smtp.34sp.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256)
>> (Exim 4.76)
>> (envelope-from <brian at thejohnsons.co.uk>)
>> id 1SCDJz-0003cy-Co
>> for ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:03:07 +0100
>> Received: from cpc3-cmbg8-0-0-cust532.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com
>> ([82.6.102.21]:23792 helo=thedell)
>> by smtpauth1.array1.smtp.34sp.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.72)
>> (envelope-from <brian at thejohnsons.co.uk>)
>> id 1SCDJy-0000CQ-Di
>> for ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:03:06 +0100
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>> To: "UK Cryptography Policy Discussion Group"
>> <ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: Interesting article about NSA facility and capabilities
>> References: <20120316173128.000054ef at surtees.fenrir.org.uk>
>> <op.wbk1aji4c3r7hz at thedell> <op.wbsd1jr36hl8nm at clerew.man.ac.uk>
>> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:02:56 +0100
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>> From: "Brian L Johnson" <brian at thejohnsons.co.uk>
>> Message-ID: <op.wbsey6mic3r7hz at thedell>
>> In-Reply-To: <op.wbsd1jr36hl8nm at clerew.man.ac.uk>
>> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (Win32)
>> X-Authenticated-As: thejohnsons.co.uk
>> X-OriginalSMTPIP: 82.6.102.21
>> Smarthost: 80.82.124.206
>> *----------8<-----cut here-----8<-----------*
>

-- 
Chris Salter
http://www.originalthinktank.org.uk/
http://www.post-polio.org.uk/



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