latest plans to monitor internet use in the UK

Francis Davey fjmd1a at
Fri Jun 15 23:09:04 BST 2012

2012/6/15 Peter Fairbrother <zenadsl6186 at>:
> so, if it's the ISPs who collect only the same comms data, and dish the
> relevant dribbles out on demand/request while keeping the mass of data
> secure, it just means they collect a bit more, and keep it for however long
> - much the same overall though, no big difference (and there would be no
> need for an Act to make only those changes, they could be made under RIPA by
> SI).

The use data of (say) facebook is communications data. Facebook is a
telecommunications service. If there is any way to make sure that data
is retained for later use, clause 1 allows an order to ensure that it
is. Ideally by forcing facebook to use GCHQ equipment, but in reality
it may be possible to use something at the ISP to do the trick.

The reason for clause 1 is that the government can adapt the mechanism
depending on what they want to catch.

What I'm saying is that the facebook usage data is in scope and the
act says that if it could be obtained in any way within the reach of
UK law, then the government can do it that way. Obviously if it can't
be obtained then it can't and no law we pass will change that.

Francis Davey

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