Starmer dumps doormat?
Peter Tomlinson
pwt at iosis.co.uk
Sat Jan 15 17:48:46 GMT 2011
From: Wendy M. Grossman [mailto:wendyg at pelicancrossing.net]
> Sent: 15 January 2011 15:52
> To: cb at qualia.co.uk; UK Cryptography Policy Discussion Group
> Cc: Caspar Bowden (travelling private e-mail)
> Subject: Re: Starmer dumps doormat?
>
> Why should whether you've heard the messages or not make any difference?
> w
Following up the doormat analogy, my physical doormat is inside my front
door, so anyone who reaches through the letterbox and picks up a letter
and opens the envelope but without taking the envelope and contents out
through the letterbox is, I believe, doing something illegal. If they
just take the letter away in its envelope and don't open it, I'm sure
that they are doing something illegal. And if I open the letter and
leave the contents on the doormat and someone reaches in with a camera
and reads the letter, they are invading my privacy, but is that illegal?
The argument seems to have been that listening to a voicemail message
which is stored in the phone system AND has been listened to by the
recipient is not illegal - thus it further seems that we service users
are in a civil law situation where my disagreement is with the service
provider for not keeping the messages secure until deleted - I think
that I want something stronger in law, something that responds to the
very nature of these voicemail messages (and of emails) that for a time
(perhaps a very considerable time) they are simultaneously both in my
possession (typically stored in my brain after I have listened to them,
albeit that that is a fallible storage medium) and stored in the service
provider's system.
Now I use an internet phone service that parcels up a voicemail message
into a wav file and sends me that wav file by email (as well as keeping
the message for me to listen to over the phone)...
Peter
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