Reporting scam emails to Met Police

Peter Tomlinson pwt at
Sun Dec 4 17:56:59 GMT 2011

So, if its OK for me to try to summarise, it seems that the police wish 
to have evidence of an actual gain or loss (as appropriate) but without 
that evidence they do not want to be pro-active in blocking either 
phishing emails or those scam emails that offer you loadsamoney if only 
you reply. It is therefore left to the internet community (via 
organisations such as Cloudmark) to do the pro-active work.

I think that we deserve better. Meanwhile I still want PlusNet to stop 
blocking my attempts to report phishing emails to the banks whose 
customers they are tickling up (but I do restrict that to the banks that 
I use) and to HMRC when its an attack on taxpayers. But thanks for the 
APWG information, and I will try reporting to them (although their site 
does indicate that using their online form might be the best way).


On 04/12/2011 17:15, Clive D.W. Feather wrote:
> Peter Sommer said:
>> Fraud by false representation
>> (1)A person is in breach of this section if he?
>> (a)dishonestly makes a false representation, and
>> (b)intends, by making the representation?
>> (i)to make a gain for himself or another, or
>> (ii)to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
> Note that you need to show real loss, not just damage to reputation or
> something like that:
> 5.
> (1)The references to gain and loss in sections 2 to 4 are to be read in
> accordance with this section.
> (2)"Gain" and "loss" -
> (a)extend only to gain or loss in money or other property;
> (b)include any such gain or loss whether temporary or permanent;
> and "property" means any property whether real or personal (including
> things in action and other intangible property).
> (3)"Gain" includes a gain by keeping what one has, as well as a gain by
> getting what one does not have.
> (4)"Loss" includes a loss by not getting what one might get, as well as a
> loss by parting with what one has.

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