Card transactions by proxy

Roger Hayter roger at
Fri Apr 8 22:41:23 BST 2011

In message <20110408114333.GD28020 at>, Jon Ribbens 
<jon+ukcrypto at> writes
>On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 11:23:15AM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
>> In article <20110408093212.GC28020 at>, Jon Ribbens
>> <jon+ukcrypto at> writes
>>> Well, it's not a "premium rate" number by Ofcom's definition, but it's
>>> a "premium rate" number in that I will be charged at a "premium rate"
>>> for calling it compared to calling ordinary 01/02/03 numbers.
>>> Apologies for the tangent though ;-)
>> I think we should be careful when using jargon which has a precise
>> meaning (such as "Premium Rate"), to nurse a grudge about "high cost"
>> calls,
>They are charged at a rate higher than normal calls. The English word
>for that is "premium".
>> which is presumably an artefact of your chosen phone supplier.
>If there is a mobile provider I can choose which does not charge a
>premium for 0800 calls, I am not aware of it.

It is possible (at least for 02 users) for the recipient to publish a 
number which is free (or rather recipient-paid-for) to call.  The AA , 
for instance, allocate a number the same as their 0800 number with the 
initial '0' removed which is free to call from my mobile.  Presumably 
other organisations with 0800 numbers could do the same, at a price.

Roger Hayter

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