Consultation on change to RIP interception definition

Peter Tomlinson pwt at
Thu Nov 11 15:14:39 GMT 2010

Nicholas Bohm wrote:
> On 11/11/2010 14:35, Peter Tomlinson wrote:
>> Ian Batten wrote:
>>>> However, there are global moves to create a common method to be far
>>>> more secure online (an eID method) so long as you have your internet
>>>> transactions secured with a user ID [1] digital certificate that is
>>>> invoked by some specific action by the end user (e.g. with a
>>>> password or by plugging in a physical token) at the start of such a
>>>> session. Once we get that operating...
>>> The heat death of the universe will occur sooner.  Why would anyone
>>> voluntarily sign up for such a scheme, which makes ID cards look
>>> positively cuddly?
>> You might have to in order to do business with some big, global online
>> retailers - 'thin client' to go in your PC has been mentioned, but
>> Chatham House Rule applies to the meeting at which the ID of the
>> source was mentioned (i.e. I can't say who).
>> Directgov, however, wants a method just for UK public sector services,
>> but the more open concept of making this available to all online
>> service providers has been indicated to them. And the US White House
>> consulted this summer, asking for ideas for a general method to have
>> safe online IDs.
> A cynical way of looking at this is that the (UK) Government has failed
> in its attempt to get compulsory ID cards, and is now trying to get
> together a global alliance of governments and private sector bodies in
> order to make it impracticably inconvenient for citizens to do without
> the ID they crave.
Actually I don't see any sign of UK govt working with anybody else on 
this, and its only part of UK govt at the moment - the proposal (and the 
couple of OJEU notices put out to ask for information about methods 
offered, plus the G-Digital web site 
appear to be simply blinkered thinking. The private sector initiative 
that I referred to appears to be looking at the global scene, in the way 
that increasingly I see big internet players simply trying to rise above 
national interests because their interest is in business, everywhere. 
The USA federal initiative does, however, appear to be rather more open.


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