Martin Hepworth maxsec at
Fri Dec 17 13:53:44 GMT 2010

Big if and but, the DPA of which they should be aware.

but sometimes the USA does have a clue about information retieval..

Martin Hepworth
Oxford, UK

On 17 December 2010 11:38, Michael Simpson <mikie.simpson at> wrote:

> It seems that cloud computing is the new shiny up here in sunny
> scotland. Specifically use of cloud computing infrastructure to reduce
> costs in the NHS. Microsoft appear to be front and centre in the
> various presentations being given to the civil service and the buzz is
> growing about use of their Azure service. Whilst i understand and have
> used cloud services (mainly EC2 since its inception) for some specific
> tasks such as rapid prototyping of web applications for demo purposes
> and also for a highly scalable render farm experiment i am at a bit of
> a loss to see why it should be used in lieu of the normal
> "infrastructure as a service" or software as a service provided those
> companies already contracted (and paid for) by the taxpayer.
> -maybe for speeding up rendering of MRI images or scaling the intraweb
> server automagically so that when everyone hits it at 0900 it remains
> snappy, both of which could be achieved by utilising virtual machines
> or distributed clients to take advantage of *many* wasted cpu cycles
> that the scottish NHS already has.
> </rant>
>  The point of this mail though is to bring to your attention the
> recent revelation by Jon Honeyball in this month's "PC Pro" after he
> managed to corner Bob Muglia - president of MSFT's server and tools
> business and asked him about the sanctity of data stored in their EU
> cloud. Jon was told that if the dept of homeland security (or
> presumably any other agency that really wants to) asks for any data
> held by MSFT anywhere then it will be transferred to the US datacentre
> and handed over "no ifs, no buts."
> caveat emptor
> mike
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