What do you think about communications data collection and storage?

Ian Batten ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Fri, 1 May 2009 11:41:10 +0100


On 30 Apr 09, at 1944, Roland Perry wrote:

> In article <C3EE1311-8BD3-4F4A-A018-E4B24F0F3CD2@batten.eu.org>, Ian  
> Batten <igb@batten.eu.org> writes
>>>> Good news for Postini, one can't help thinking.
>>>
>>> Is that because you surmise their servers are in the USA?
>>
>> No, I surmise that their corporate headquarters and registered  
>> office are in the USA.  And as `USA' is for this purpose synonymous  
>> with `Delaware', I surmise they are, in fact, a Delaware company.   
>> If I'm wrong, then for Postini read `anyone who wants to set up a  
>> virus and spam scanning company who doesn't want to do it in the UK'.
>
> And the FBI, or sundry alleged Bush-regime illegal wiretap  
> operations, have no jurisdiction over them?


I suspect that if Jacqui Smith (Jaqueboots to her friends) were to  
phone up Obama to demand that a US company's communications were  
intercepted, once the White House operator had figured out she wasn't  
an Amway saleswoman the response would be taken directly from Arkell  
vs Pressdram.

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> (I see you've avoided the issue of potentially sensitive data being  
> sent via a regime that doesn't subscribe to DPA - or are they a  
> certified safe harbour?)

Does the DPA affect Data in Motion, or just Data at Rest?  It's  
impossible, in general, to know if the path between two UK companies  
passes through an arbitrary other country.

ian