Data Retention Regulations in the Lords

Ian Batten ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:51:05 +0000


On 27 Mar 09, at 1137, David Hansen wrote:

> On 27 Mar 2009 at 9:43, Roland Perry wrote:
>
>> I think you are guilty of the effect we saw in Brussels when  
>> negotiating
>> the Privacy Directive (which had some anti-spam measures and  
>> therefore
>> benefited from those discussing it understanding a little about what
>> spam is); viz "all email is like Hotmail" [1]. (Or perhaps more
>> recently, "like Gmail").
>
> I don't think so.
>
>> However, conventional ISP spam detection is just as likely to simply
>> throw it away. Sometimes even before it's been accepted at the
>> destination ISP, as a result of various internal or external  
>> blacklists.
>
> One can tell them to throw it away by working the various controls  
> in a
> control panel. Some ISPs may even be foolish enough to have this  
> turned
> on by default [1] though their lawyers may have something to say about
> that. I would take my business elsewhere if one told me that they  
> would
> decide what to do with this and I need not worry my pretty little head
> about it.

I'd be stunned if there were no ISPs that do a certain amount of RBL- 
based spam control before the SMTP connection is established, and  
therefore before the putative recipient has been identified.

ian