Data Retention isn't enough
Richard Clayton
ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:45:53 +0000
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Yesterday the Commons "Fourth Delegated Legislation Committee" debated
the Regulations that transpose the Data Retention Directive (the Lords
will debate them next week):
<URL:http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmgeneral/deleg4/
090316/90316s01.htm>
The main interest must be that the Minister made it pretty clear that
they didn't go far enough, and that the Interception Modernisation
Programme was needed to fill in the gaps:
Tom Brake (Carshalton and Wallington) (LD): I was hoping that in the
interests of clarity the Minister could explain whether
applications such as Facebook or instant messaging are covered by
the directive.
Mr. Coaker: No. Social networking sites, such as MySpace or bebo,
are not covered by the directive. That is one reason why the
Government are looking at what we should do about the intercept
modernisation programme because there are certain aspects of
communications which are not covered by the directive.
[...]
Mr. Coaker: The hon. Member for Carshalton and Wallington will also
know the controversy that currently surrounds the intercept
modernisation programme. I look forward to his support when we
present intercept modernisation programme proposals, which may
include requiring the retention of data on Facebook, bebo,
MySpace and all other similar sites.
Also of interest when Coaker continued -- sounds as if CEOP has finally
come across "tangler" style systems
Let me use another example, which I saw at the Child Exploitation
and Online Protection Centre. Paedophiles, who we are some of the
most heinous people imaginable, are now using games to send their
horrible material to each other. They do not send it in one game,
but in several different games. Then, with awful, evil genius,
the paedophile puts all the individual games together, and bit by
bit draws off the appalling material from each one and puts that
together.
Then James Brokenshire (Con) discussed access to the data under RIPA
(which is as we all know very wide-ranging, and the usual examples about
paper-boys and dog fouling were mentioned) and said:
We believe that the powers under RIPA should be used only to
combat serious crime and for the protection of national security.
If this Government are not prepared to act, then a Conservative
Government will be. We cannot support a statutory instrument
introducing new powers tied to an existing piece of legislation
with such abusively wide scope. If the Government should get
their wish, I say to the Minister that, if my party is elected,
we will legislate to put in place the necessary protections and
to undo anything that the Government have put in place that
conflicts with those protections.
which looks exactly like a promise to me!
Mr Coaker then tried to put Tom Brake (Liberal) on the spot on this and
he said:
Tom Brake: Without having consulted colleagues, my guess is that it
would be entirely consistent with the strength of our position on
RIPA to seek to repeal the regulations and propose something with
much tougher safeguards than those currently in place. I hope
that that is helpful to the Minister, and I welcome the trust and
confidence that he has in our capacity to romp home in the next
general election. But, as I was saying, unless the Minister can
produce some real safeguards in his response, I am afraid that I
will not support the statutory instrument today.
The full debate is worth reading.
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richard Richard Clayton
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
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