Mastermind and the road to Damascus
Ian Batten
ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:22:10 +0000
On 28 Feb 2009, at 23:11, Brian L Johnson wrote:
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> Exactly. I'd obviously be prevented from taking further photos
> whilst I was being 'talked to', but my existing photos would already
> be safe because I would no longer have them. "Photos, constable?
> What photos?"
Yes, and I"m sure you enjoyed finding the ambiguities in the school
rules and showing you were cleverer than teacher.
However, I'd suggest that if the police wanted to get arsey, you'd be
a long way from ``safe''. I don't say this in order to defend the
law, which is largely silly, but to prevent the sudden clash between
speculation on ukcrypto and actually getting arrested.
You're seen pointing a camera at things the police claim fall under
the various remits. You are unable to produce the innocent
photographs that you were taking of policeman's helmets, or indeed any
photographs taken within the past hour, because the photographs are in
the possession of a confederate whom you refuse to name and you are
therefore arrested on suspision of a complex plot to take photographs
and conceal them. Unable to produce the exculpatory photographs, you
are charged with collecting information of potential use to
terrorists, and adverse inferences are drawn from your pre-meditated
scheme to conceal the photographs you were taking. How will it look
to a jury when you are charged with conspiracy with person or persons
unknown to assist the commission of acts of terrorism?
You're seen pointing a camera at things the police claim fall under
the various remits. You are able to produce the innocent photographs
that you were taking of policeman's helmets, because the photographs
are in the possession of a confederate whom you name. Although the
photographs appear superficially innocent, it is clear that you have
engaged in a conspiracy to take those photographs, with a complex
scheme in place to conceal them from the police, and adverse
inferences are drawn from your pre-meditated scheme to conceal the
photographs you were taking. Moreover, you are unable to prove that
you weren't even `cleverer' and weren't sending innocent photographs
to the confederate whom you declared but other, unspecified,
photographs to another, unknown confederate. How will it look to a
jury when you are charged with conspiracy to assist the commission of
acts of terrorism?
Now I happen to think that (a) the law in this area is largely
insane, (b) a jury would probably convict but (c) an appeal court
would almost certainly overturn the conviction: there just wouldn't be
enough evidence of intent, and the charges would be seem to boil down
to ``baiting the police in a built-up area''. However, before you
decide you want to engage in sixth form semantics with the law
(remember the next line in the song ``I fought the law''), decide if
you really think the police will just shrug their shoulders and go
``damn, Mr Johnson, you're just too clever for us, curse your wireless
networking'' or arrest you and run through a lot of options to save
face. Yes, you'll ultimately prevail, and good luck with the rest of
your life.
ian