Man loses C&P Phantom Withdrawl case
Theo Markettos
theom+news at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Sat Jun 20 15:32:02 BST 2009
In article <4A3C49FC.1090505 at zen.co.uk> you wrote:
> The judge seemed to assume that there was no "history of successful
> fraudulent attacks" - from other comment, especially Steven Murdoch's
> testimony, it seems that there is an absence of evidence, rather than an
> evidence of absence,
>
> A pity no-one seems to have thought to ask the bank how often they had
> previously refunded customers in similar circumstances ...
>
> ... anecdotally, most people have a story about card fraud happening
> either to themselves or to someone close to them.
In one amusing moment of the case, the judge mentioned that he himself had
been a victim of card fraud "in Essex. I've never been to Essex!". There
was some discussion about volumes of industry-wide fraud, but no numbers
presented on specific types of fraud (eg magstripe, cardholder-not-present,
phantom ATMs, etc etc) or what proportion was refunded. I don't know
whether the bank was asked - there was a several hundred page evidence
bundle that I didn't see.
Theo
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