IP Technical question
Ian Batten
ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:12:29 +0000
On 29 Jan 2009, at 16:41, ken wrote:
> Ian Batten replied to Roland Perry:
>
> >>> But surely, anyone up to no good would take
> >>> precautions roughly like mine?
> >> It seems not. Living like a character out of
> >> "Mission Impossible" is just too much hard work
> >
> > Or, alternatively, they make a rational decision
> > that their chances of being impeded in the pursuit
> > of their dastardly plans (TM) is not reduced by
> > the privacy or otherwise of their electronic communication.
>
> Or (I strongly suspect on very little evidence) the purveyors of
> Dastardly Plans prefer to communicate face-to-face and when they
> can't they typically use cheap pay-as-you-go phones (second-hand,
> stolen, borrowed, swapped, picked up for a fiver down the pub, found
> in the street) and (if they have any sense) discard them after the
> Dastardly Deed is Done.
>
> Until recently it was very common to see dodgy characters selling
> cheap phones and SIM cards in pubs in south-east London...
Along with `law abiding criminals', may I introduce `criminals in
striped jumpers with bags marked SWAG' into our menagerie?
You're right. If I'm in the East End, there are probably still crooks
who, looking down on scag addicts stealing video recorders, see
themselves as hard men in the mould of the Krays. Protection, loan
sharking, that sort of thing. They look after their dear old Mum and
only hurt their own kind, too. And they probably have rather harder
and slightly more psychopathic friends who, when not round Guy
Ritchie's giving him tips for his next film, are ready to throw the
readies in the back of the motor and make off with the shooters after
a botched bank raid.
For all these, one-time mobes and meetings in the back room of pubs
are probably the order of the day. They're dangerous, violent
criminals, but they ultimately are interested in stealing things.
Physical things. From physical places. They're pretty good at it,
but they succeed through being a bit quicker, a bit sharper and a bit
more violent than the people protecting the physical things. Their
manors are small, and they're usually known to the police as local
faces. They tend to get caught, because ultimately they don't have
plausible denial for the money they have, and they don't have access
to the skills required to keep the money and the evidence trail
quiet. And there's more falling out amongst themselves than is
healthy for them.
But I doubt Bernie Madoff had much truck with this sort of thing,
nipping out from his brownstone to score a moody SIM. I doubt that
the competent, didn't get caught IRA bomb makers were quite so ready
to sit around in pubs looking shifty. I'd be surprised if it turned
out that the radioactive poisoning of Russian dissidents was planned
over eels and mash. People like that don't plan to get caught, and to
quote a quotable quote, are unlikely to be found doing thrill-seeker
liquor store holdups with a "Born to Lose" tattoo on their chest.
They aren't stealing physical things, they have complex motives and if
those include money there'll be a lot of it with complex laundering
requirements. They'll have complex relationships with other
criminals, too.
We don't know the scale of this sort of thing. The criminals that get
caught aren't necessarily representative of those who present the
greatest risk. It's worth assuming that they either are competent or
have access to people who are competent, because it's hardly news to
suggest that there are people who will bend their talents to helping
dubious causes for sufficient money, and high-grade criminals have
access to a lot of that. Wasn't it one of the east-coast (New
Joisey, not Norfolk) crime families that turned out to have built a
Faraday cage in their basement?
Watch The Wire? Think of Stringer Bell.
ian
Tonight I have been listening to Solid Air and Grace and Danger. John
Martyn, RIP.