IP Technical question

[Ian Batten]

On 29 Jan 09, at 1336, Chris Edwards wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Ian Batten wrote:
>
> | I could equally well be, and have indeed considered, renting a  
> zone on a
> | Solaris box or the FreeBSD / Linux / VMware equivalent in the US,  
> the
> | USSR or the Cayman Islands. It would cost me little more than a  
> handful
> | of beans for the only communication in and out of my site to be  
> heavily
> | encrypted traffic headed for a location completely outside UK
> | jurisdiction.
>
> [...]
>
> | So today, logs of my mail sending and receipt exist, within my  
> hosts'
> | logs. But it would be trivial to arrange matters otherwise, and  
> which
> | point I would generate no logs whatsoever.
>
> OK, but your Cayman Islands box has to mail other places.
>
> Traffic logs of your mail to/from UK-based ISPs will be held by  
> those ISPs

Sure.  All they need to do is establish the identity I'm using when  
the traffic exits my server in an opaque jurisdiction.  Which might be  
distinctly non-trivial, of course.  Especially if my confederates use  
forwarding services in an opaque jurisdiction.

There's a network design involving two machines in opaque  
jurisdictions which we can all figure out and needn't spell out the  
details of.


>
>
> If you mail UK individuals who use hotmail/yahoo accounts, the UK  
> police
> may still be able to obtain the logs.  Or, suitably-placed IMP black- 
> boxes
> might be able to sniff similar data when the recipient checks their
> hotmail from their UK broadband connection.

Oh look: gmail just started working over https.

ian