'Today' considers data retention and IMP

Ben Laurie ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:23:52 +0000


Richard Clayton wrote:
>> For example I use one Gmail account as web mail using https: and
>> another via my desktop client using  SMTP over SSL (which is the
>> default for GMail I think).
> 
> Since Google is in California, they are not bound to preserve anything
> (albeit the concept of Google not recording things is so unlikely, that
> you should assume that they log a great deal, including content, and
> keep it for long periods...  read your agreement with them!)

I should point out that since Google provides mail _storage_ it would be
a bit silly if we didn't store the content!

> However, that's part of the point of IMP ... once "black boxes" exist at
> ISPs then it is trivial to detect the traffic data ... viz: that you
> connected to Google, and then to estimate the size of the email that was
> transferred. If you don't actually use https: but only log in securely
> and thereafter work in the clear (very common for real webmail systems,
> see UKCrypto passim)

GMail now offers HTTPS-only access. Go to "Settings" and the option is
at the bottom of the "General" tab.

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