Mastermind and the road to Damascus
Roland Perry
ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:17:25 +0000
In article <49A8124E.5000808@callnetuk.com>, Pete Mitchell
<otcbn@callnetuk.com> writes
>The 2000 Act is very vague about what sort of material is illegal to
>collect,
It specifically mentions photos (which the 2008 amendment doesn't).
>so an officer is on shaky ground when claiming that a photo of him is
>such a piece of information (though they've certainly tried it).
There's nothing in the 2000 Act that is specific to *only* policemen. It
talks about a much broader set of situations.
>But the new Act specifically mentions collecting information about
>constables as a prima facie dubious activity that demands an excuse.
It doesn't mention collecting information.
The verbs are "eliciting, communicating and publishing".
> So it is much easier for the police to destroy such a photograph and
>later claim that he genuinely believed it was illegal.
It isn't "easier to destroy", as there's no [new or old] power to do
that.
>> "In a statement, the Home Office said taking pictures of police
>>>officers would only be deemed an offence in "very exceptional
>>>circumstances".
>>
>As if anyone except you believes what the Home Office says on such
>matters. The regular abuse of terrorism powers like stop and search has
>become a part of everyday life in London.
Armed with the Home Office "rules" it should be possible to make a stand
against such things. The feared police unlawful activity is, after all,
counter-productive because they alienate the middle class from the
police.
>Anyway, as has been pointed out, it's not being charged that's the
>problem, it's being arrested and having the photos deleted.
Which should trigger complaints if not done lawfully.
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Roland Perry