What do you think about communications data collection and storage?

[Ian Batten]

On 28 Apr 2009, at 17:45, Roland Perry wrote:

> In article <58443D93-C5E6-4E45-8B3B-C498FD0690C2@batten.eu.org>, Ian  
> Batten <igb@batten.eu.org> writes
> >>>and most large private companies.
> >>
> >>But they will usually have a commercial ISP giving them service,  
> which >>brings all the communications into scope.
> >>
>> Except most of them won't use their ISP's mail servers in either  
>> direction.
>
> Which isn't any different to today. But the new rules bring them  
> into the scope of the "third party" snooping.

The link between my bit of myemployer.com and the main  
uk.myemployer.com gateway runs with TLS over the Internet.  It could  
run over a VPN over the public Internet (we have one).  Or it could  
run over a private IP network on leased circuits (we have one).  Or it  
could run over DWDM on our own fibre (the particular link in question  
doesn't have fibre laid, as it happens, but it probably will soon).

>
>
>> An interesting question is going to be ``are MessageLabs a CP  
>> within the meaning of this?''
>
> Do they provide a service on a shared server at a third party  
> location; or is it done with a dedicated box installed close to the  
> user?

The former.

>
>
> The former sounds like it might be a publicly available service  
> (subscribing just takes money), the latter not (only the specific  
> end user organisation is allowed to use it).

Good news for Postini, one can't help thinking.

ian