What do you think about communications data collection and storage?

Ian Batten ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:22:33 +0100


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>> and most large private companies.
>
> But they will usually have a commercial ISP giving them service,  
> which brings all the communications into scope.

Except most of them won't use their ISP's mail servers in either  
direction.

An interesting question is going to be ``are MessageLabs a CP within  
the meaning of this?''


>
>> We could do it for ourselves if we wanted to. Combine the two using  
>> encrypted tunnels to connect the neighbourhood nets and we're  
>> living in a Cory Doctorow book

And handily, your encrypted tunnel denotes the people who are using  
your private network, thus making life much easier for the police.   
The law abiding aren't going to willingly sign up to act as chaff for  
your Criminal Conspiracy (TM), so the members of your two local  
networks pretty much define the set of conspirators.  You all be  
privacy pirates, ah hah!

ian


I be a privacy pirate, ar arr.





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ourselves if we wanted to. Combine the two using encrypted tunnels to =
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encrypted tunnel denotes the people who are using your private network, =
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