ID card rollout begins

Mark Lomas ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:39:30 +0100


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2008/9/25 PeteM <otcbn@callnetuk.com>

> Peter Tomlinson wrote  on 25-09-08 12:16:
>
>>
>>> I think that it is stronger than that: the intention is that non-EEA
>> nationals resident here for more than 3 months (or perhaps 6) will have to
>> carry it at all times, but for now I expect they will have to produce it
>> within a reasonable time if asked to.
>>
>
> How will the police know that the person is a non-EEA national, if he is
> not carrying his card?
>
Peter makes an excellent point.

I was once stopped at an American police roadblock. I hold a British
passport. A friend in the passenger seat held a Chinese passport. Two other
passengers in the back were both American.

The policeman asked our nationalities, then checked my passport and that of
my friend. One of our passengers then asked why he wasn't checking them. His
response was interesting. He suggested that he had no legal authority to ask
for an American ID, which prompted the obvious question. Fortunately, the
policeman had a sense of humour and let us pass.

        Mark

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<div class="gmail_quote">2008/9/25 PeteM <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:otcbn@callnetuk.com">otcbn@callnetuk.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Peter Tomlinson wrote &nbsp;on 25-09-08 12:16: 
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br></blockquote>I think that it is stronger than that: the intention is that non-EEA nationals resident here for more than 3 months (or perhaps 6) will have to carry it at all times, but for now I expect they will have to produce it within a reasonable time if asked to.<br>
</blockquote><br></div>How will the police know that the person is a non-EEA national, if he is not carrying his card?<br></blockquote>
<div>Peter makes an excellent point.</div>
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<div>I was once stopped at an American police roadblock. I hold a British passport. A friend in the passenger seat held a Chinese passport. Two other passengers in the back were both American.</div>
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<div>The policeman asked our nationalities, then checked my passport and that of my friend. One of our passengers then asked why he wasn&#39;t checking them. His response was interesting. He suggested that he had no legal authority to ask for an American ID, which prompted the obvious question. Fortunately, the policeman had a sense of humour and let us pass.</div>

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<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mark</div></div></div>

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