ID card rollout begins

[David Biggins]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukcrypto-admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk [mailto:ukcrypto-
> admin@chiark.greenend.org.uk] On Behalf Of Roland Perry
> Sent: 25 September 2008 14:54
> To: ukcrypto@chiark.greenend.org.uk
> Subject: Re: ID card rollout begins
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> I don't currently accept that the police can demand to see these ID
> cards, especially as I don't see a mechanism for them to be even
> remotely compulsory in the foreseeable future (ie at least the
ten-year
> life of existing passports-with-visas-in).

"Can I see your ID card please Sir?  Thank you Sir, that will be all"...

"Can I see your ID card please Sir?  You do not have one?   Then under
the 2007 'I don't like the look of this' Act, I hereby assert that I
have reason to believe that some offence is being committed somewhere,
and so I require you to identify yourself to my satisfaction either here
or at the police station.  No, Sir, I am not required to demonstrate
that I have any belief that you are involved in any way in a crime,
merely that I have reason to believe that one is being committed
somewhere, which is a statistical near-certainty.  So I would like a
passport, a domestic bill carrying your current address, and a certified
copy of your birth certificate?   Not carrying them?   Well, that is
careless of you Sir.  So if you'd like to get in this car please Sir,
and perhaps in future Sir may consider the benefits of obtaining and
carrying a voluntary ID card to avoid this kind of inconvenience"...

D.