Tool to backup, modify and clone ePassport released
Peter Fairbrother
ukcrypto at chiark.greenend.org.uk
Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:09:36 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> Ian Batten wrote:
>>
>> On 30 Sep 2008, at 18:07, Charles Lindsey wrote:
>
>>> I think it safe to assume that UK passports have omitted several
>>> features which a competent cryptographer would have included as a
>>> matter of course :-(.
>>
>> I don't. It'd be stunned if the design hadn't made a trip to the West
>> Country.
>
> You expect CESG to do more than say product X complies with a standard?
> I think you have an overly optimistic expectation of CESG's capabilities.
>
> The subversion of the entire UK passport system would be
>> rather uncool. The passports have had the benefit of some of the best
>> physical security people in the game in the design of the paper and
>> the watermarks, so why wouldn't they be equally motivated to sort out
>> the electronic properties?
>
> Motivation - do CESG have any such motivation?
>
> Then there is their lack of competence, or let's see, maybe - their lack
> of competence?
>
> I don't know how competent GCHQ are, but CESG are only good for
> certification to standards written by someone else, and not even that
> really. They simply don't know how to do secure.
>
> And I don't think GCHQ is going to want to be involved in passport design.
>
>
>
> -- Peter Fairbrother
>
>
Of course, the other thing about CESG is that nobody in Gubbmint seems
to ask them anything, or to take any notice of what they say; so it
wouldn't surprise me at all if it "hadn't made a trip to the West
Country" -- or if it had, quite possibly no-one took any notice of what
they said.
-- Peter Fairbrother